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Why do they hate us? The responses (Mormonism-Open)
The MormonTimes ^ | Feb, 12, 2010 | By McKay Coppins

Posted on 02/12/2010 8:29:49 AM PST by colorcountry

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To: svcw
Yeah and the New Testament tells you to go hang yourself if you want to cherrypick the right scriptures.

I can see the results of Mormonism (great family values, millions of conservative pro-American voters) and I can see the results of a few narrowly defined fundy bigots whose life's mission is to destroy them. That's all I need to know.

41 posted on 02/12/2010 9:48:09 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Duffboy

The idea that the American Indians were a lost tribe of Israel was actually pretty widespread at that time. Smith didn’t “make it up”, it was something he’d heard from other people (same goes for other key elements of Mormon theology, some of which came from theologians Thomas Dick and Emanuel Swedenborg, whose published works were available to Smith and widely discussed in Smith’s circles). As for the “Gold Tablets”, objectively speaking it isn’t any less believable than the story of the Ten Commandments being handed to Moses on stone tablets by way of a burning bush (and I don’t believe either story is true in any literal sense).


42 posted on 02/12/2010 9:48:26 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I don't appreciate having missionaries trying to strike up a conversation on the street

What makes missionaries believe they have the right to accost one on a street?

Boundaries, anyone?

43 posted on 02/12/2010 9:48:56 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: SZonian
I agree with you that calling someone a hater is just a way to shut them up or put them down.. I don't hate any religion but do have a healthy distrust of muslims that want to cut off my head...That's the only religion that I even come close to hating...they are all nut cases. Well maybe only 99% of them are nut cases. I cannot understand why so much Mormon bashing goes on...I don't know of any Mormon in this day and age that want to do harm to me or America. We are all entitled to our are own beliefs. (except murderous muslims and then its self defense)
44 posted on 02/12/2010 9:49:15 AM PST by goat granny
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To: greyfoxx39
What makes missionaries believe they have the right to accost one on a street?

The First Amendment, maybe?

You can simply do what I do, say 'no thanks', and walk away. Trying to make an issue of missionaries means you don't take the Bill of Rights very seriously when it gets in the way of your not wanting to be offended.

45 posted on 02/12/2010 9:52:12 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: colorcountry

Actually I don’t either. Once in a while I pass some who are tracting on the street, but they don’t go after me or anyone else directly — they just ask inviting questions to the passing crowd in general, and only strike up direct conversations with the few who stop and respond to them. That’s why I said whoever wrote that “complaint” is pretty silly. It’s clearly someone who *chooses* to keep stopping to debate with them, and yet complains that they keep offering that opportunity.


46 posted on 02/12/2010 9:53:42 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: colorcountry
Well 84% of my life was Mormonism, non-stop.

84% is really unbalanced. I spend 29% of my life just sleeping, another 36% of so just earning a living. I could add up all my other tasks, but it probably leaves me just 5% of my life or so to spend on religion. Maybe I could use a little bit more?

So you've left what you consider one cult to join another? Good luck. I'm moving on. You can have the last word.

47 posted on 02/12/2010 9:55:08 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: svcw

#5 says he hates the doctrine, is that the same?


48 posted on 02/12/2010 9:55:31 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: colorcountry
well, yeah I'll take a poke at definnig why I participate in anti mormon threads.

I want to raise an objection to the word "hate" used in the title....it immediately characterizes us anti's as a body that dislikes the people of mormonism, when in fact the system, theology and implementation of that belief system is what I consider at odds with Christians who can trace an apostolic lineage and believe in a Trinitarian Monotheistic God

49 posted on 02/12/2010 9:56:22 AM PST by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: Vigilanteman

>>”Your posting history tells very little about your conversion to Christ and a lot about your hatred of Mormons.”<<

Very good response! Near perfect.


50 posted on 02/12/2010 9:56:49 AM PST by panaxanax (It's time for TEA Party Patriots to get an 'ATTITUDE'.)
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To: dirtboy

Funny, that First Amendment right, give them the right to speak, and others the right to be offended.

It sounds like you might not think disagreement is also a right.


51 posted on 02/12/2010 9:58:16 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: stuartcr
Saying you hate the doctrine is not the same as you saying you hate mormons. Its hate mormonism not hate mormons. I say that they are not the same thing.
52 posted on 02/12/2010 9:59:16 AM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: colorcountry
It sounds like you might not think disagreement is also a right.

And exactly where did I say that? You need to get a grip.

53 posted on 02/12/2010 9:59:32 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Trying to make an issue of missionaries means you don't take the Bill of Rights very seriously when it gets in the way of your not wanting to be offended.

Thanks for the mind-reading. Is there a fee?

54 posted on 02/12/2010 10:00:07 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: greyfoxx39
Thanks for the mind-reading. Is there a fee?

Your own words betray you. No mind reading necessary.

55 posted on 02/12/2010 10:00:45 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Vigilanteman
WOW

That's all I need to know.

fundy bigots

Well, you put that all in persuasive for me with your fabulous arguments.

56 posted on 02/12/2010 10:02:29 AM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: svcw

OK, thanks


57 posted on 02/12/2010 10:02:43 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: greyfoxx39; colorcountry

New crop today, with same old statements.


58 posted on 02/12/2010 10:03:29 AM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: svcw

Yep, isn’t it great? :D


59 posted on 02/12/2010 10:04:47 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: svcw

With same old goal in mind.


60 posted on 02/12/2010 10:05:33 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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