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Catholic Biblical Apologetics: The Catholic Response to "Are You Saved?"
CatholicApologetics.org ^ | 1985-1991 | Dr. Robert Schihl and Paul Flanagan

Posted on 02/06/2010 8:21:23 PM PST by Salvation

Catholic Biblical Apologetics


Apologetics without apology!


What does the Roman Catholic Church teach about ...? ... and why?

This website surveys the origin and development of Roman Catholic Christianity from the period of the apostolic church, through the post-apostolic church and into the conciliar movement. Principal attention is paid to the biblical basis of both doctrine and dogma as well as the role of paradosis (i.e. handing on the truth) in the history of the Church. Particular attention is also paid to the hierarchical founding and succession of leadership throughout the centuries.

This is a set of lecture notes used since 1985 to teach the basis for key doctrines and dogmas of the Roman Catholic Church. The objectives of the course were, and are:

The course grew out of the need for the authors to continually answer questions about their faith tradition and their work. (Both authors are active members of Catholic parish communities in the Diocese of Richmond, Virginia. Dr. Robert Schihl was a Professor and Associate Dean of the School of Communication and the Arts at Regent University. Paul Flanagan is a consultant specializing in preparing people for technology based changes.) At the time these notes were first prepared, the authors were spending time in their faith community answering questions about their Protestant Evangelical workplaces (Mr. Flanagan was then a senior executive at the Christian Broadcasting Network), and time in their workplaces answering similar questions about their Roman Catholic faith community. These notes are the result of more than a decade of facilitating dialogue among those who wish to learn more about what the Roman Catholic Church teaches and why.

The Catholic Response to "Are You Saved?"

The Catholic Response to "Are You Saved?"

The Catholic Christian answers this question in three stages or levels corresponding to the three meanings the words "saved" and "salvation" have in the Bible. (These meanings are found in the previous section, "Salvation: A Biblical Portrait." )

Catholic Christians can respond that they have been saved. This acknowledges the first meaning of "saved" and "salvation" in scripture--Jesus Christ, Savior, by whose act of salvation we are objectively saved--He died, rose from the dead, saved them from sin.

2 Cor 5:17
So whoever is in Christ is a new creation

Catholic Christians can also respond that they are being saved. This acknowledges the second meaning "saved" and "salvation" have in scripture--the present experience, God's power delivering constantly from the bondage of sin.

1 Cor 15:2
Through it (the gospel) you are also being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you, unless you believed in vain.

Catholic Christians also respond that they will be saved, that they have hope and confidence that God will give them the grace of perseverance; that they will respond to it; and accept his gift of salvation until their death. This acknowledges the third meaning the words "saved" and "salvation" have in scripture--the future deliverance of believers at the Second Coming of Christ.

Rom 5:9
How much more then, since we are now justified by his blood, will we be saved through him from the wrath.


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: apoologetics; catholic; catholiclist; salvation
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To: annalex

2 peter 1 has no reference to salvation.

You are confusing salvation with works. This is going nowhere (as with all Catholics).


121 posted on 02/08/2010 9:11:05 AM PST by kingpins10
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To: kingpins10

You asked about the possibility of avoiding sin, and I showed you. But the last verse that I quoted in 2 Peter explains how by works the faithful “make sure their election”. Election is salvation, — that’s who the elect are.


122 posted on 02/08/2010 4:49:35 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

Election and salvation are not the same.

What makes sure our salvation is believing in Christ’s shed blood on the cross for our sins. Someone could never do one “good deed” and still be in heaven upon death. Sadly, they would have very little as far as rewards at the Judgment Seat of Christ.


123 posted on 02/08/2010 7:28:37 PM PST by kingpins10
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To: kingpins10
Election and salvation are not the same

Well, the difference is that apparently the election still needs to be secured, before it becomes salvation.

What makes it sure, St. Peter explains in the verses that I posted. It only starts with faith.

124 posted on 02/08/2010 7:55:20 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: kingpins10
You need to check out the Biblical quotes in today's Biblical Apologetics!

The Bible is the expert -- not me.

125 posted on 02/08/2010 8:00:30 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

My dear friends,

I disagree fully... no offence. I love the apologetic. As a former practicing Catholic I’ll have to take Almighty God’s Word for it instead of man made traditions that contradict to Holy Scriptures. It is all of God none of us. Saving faith will show it’s self in what we say or do (James 2:20). We work out our own salvation because we POSSESS it... not to obtain it. My former Priest (who was the dearest of men) gave me that tract you speak of. I still have it.

The bottom line is that if you or I (a broken egg) think that we can help God out for deliverance we are insane. Jesus Cried it is Finished!

My dear friends let go of you and place your 100% trust in Almighty God for salvation. Place not your trust in the Mass, the eucrest, confessing sins to a man appointed priest, indulgences, good works, sacraments etc... (these are no where found in the New Testament) – (Matt 7:21-23)

No offence to you all … but in sincerity I share this with you.

Romans 5:1, Eph 2:8,9,Acts 16:30,31, Romans 10:2-4


126 posted on 02/08/2010 8:13:06 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
(Matt 7:21-23)

Ah, that's great.

21 Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.

This is supposed to prove Once saved-Always saved?

Read your quotes before you post them, man.

127 posted on 02/08/2010 10:15:26 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

No my dear friend, you have selective reading disorder.... I stated more than that.
Many dear sincere people trust in their tradition, personal views of the Bible and etc.. And NEVER know the True Christ of Scripture.. They have another Jesus. That verse (matt 7:21-23) was a warning to you who believe out side the Word of God in love.
Ignorance of the Scriptures (Bible) is Ignorance of Christ.
http://www.theignorantfishermen.com/2009/04/take-gospel-of-john-challenge.html


128 posted on 02/09/2010 3:22:24 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Ignorance of the Scriptures (Bible) is Ignorance of Christ.

What makes you think I disagree with that? It is a Catholic saint who said that, by the way.

129 posted on 02/09/2010 5:12:20 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: ScubieNuc

You are correct ScubieNuc......There is no such place as purgatory....Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith....The great High Priest.....And thank God for “The Love Of Christ Which Passeth All Understanding”.....

“If Thou Shalt Confess With Thy Mouth The Lord Jesus, And Believe In Thy Heart That God Hath Raised Him From The Dead, Thou Shalt Be Saved......

The Apostle Paul warned us of those who preach any other doctrine.....How the simplicity of the gospel is perverted in so many ways baffles me......Christ spoke of Heaven and Hell.....NOT PURGATORY.....


130 posted on 03/02/2010 4:24:37 AM PST by 3722535r
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