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How Was This Woman Healed?(Hint: It Involves a Certain Saint, a Certain Shrine..)
http://www.marian.org/shrine/story.php?NID=3721 ^ | November 2009 | Dona M. Kocylowski

Posted on 01/29/2010 6:07:29 AM PST by stfassisi

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Link to the Chaplet of Divine Mercy http://www.ewtn.com/devotionals/mercy/dmmap.htm

1. Begin with the Sign of the Cross, 1 Our Father, 1 Hail Mary and The Apostles Creed.

2. Then on the Our Father Beads say the following: Eternal Father, I offer You the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your dearly beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ, in atonement for our sins and those of the whole world.

3. On the 10 Hail Mary Beads say the following: For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.

(Repeat step 2 and 3 for all five decades).

4. Conclude with (three times): Holy God, Holy Mighty One, Holy Immortal One, have mercy on us and on the whole world.

In 1933, God gave Sister Faustina a striking vision of His Mercy, Sister tells us:

"I saw a great light, with God the Father in the midst of it. Between this light and the earth I saw Jesus nailed to the Cross and in such a way that God, wanting to look upon the earth, had to look through Our Lord's wounds and I understood that God blessed the earth for the sake of Jesus."

Of another vision on Sept. 13, 1935, she writes:

"I saw an Angel, the executor of God's wrath... about to strike the earth...I began to beg God earnestly for the world with words which I heard interiorly. As I prayed in this way, I saw the Angel's helplessness, and he could not carry out the just punishment...."

The following day an inner voice taught her to say this prayer on ordinary rosary beads:

"First say one 'Our Father', 'Hail Mary', and 'I believe'. Then on the large beads say the following words:

'Eternal Father, I offer You the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your dearly beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ, in atonement for our sins and those of the whole world.'

On the smaller beads you are to say the following words:

'For the sake of His sorrowful Passion have mercy on us and on the whole world.'

In conclusion you are to say these words three times:

'Holy God, Holy Mighty One, Holy Immortal One, have mercy on us and on the whole world'.

Jesus said later to Sister Faustina:

"Say unceasingly this chaplet that I have taught you. Anyone who says it will receive great Mercy at the hour of death. Priests will recommend it to sinners as the last hope. Even the most hardened sinner, if he recites this Chaplet even once, will receive grace from My Infinite Mercy. I want the whole world to know My Infinite Mercy. I want to give unimaginable graces to those who trust in My Mercy...."

"....When they say this Chaplet in the presence of the dying, I will stand between My Father and the dying person not as the just judge but as the Merciful Savior".

1 posted on 01/29/2010 6:07:29 AM PST by stfassisi
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To: AveMaria1; Friar Roderic Mary; fr maximilian mary; Kolokotronis; Carolina; sandyeggo; Salvation; ...

I have been to this Holy place many times and many prayers have been answered


2 posted on 01/29/2010 6:11:25 AM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi
This will be incorporated into Obamacare. lol
3 posted on 01/29/2010 6:13:21 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: verity
This will be incorporated into Obamacare. lol

I think you may be on to something. This must be how Obama (the Messiah) plans to cut health care costs. Genius! Maybe I have misjudged him?

4 posted on 01/29/2010 6:20:31 AM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: LeGrande

If you intend to go there, I suggest you leave early. There is a long line.


5 posted on 01/29/2010 6:23:24 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy; verity
If you intend to go there, I suggest you leave early. There is a long line.

I apologize for making fun, I try and make it a point of only going after anti Mormon Born Againers. Verity's post was just too funny.

6 posted on 01/29/2010 6:32:43 AM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: LeGrande
I think God likes us to have fun AND that He understands that making jokes is one way we "incorporate" new and startling information. (Cf. all the Chernobyl jokes.)

I call it "reverential flippancy". For example I refer to Pope John Paul the Great as "J2P2," because I love him so much that when I say his name "straight" I have to pause a minute.

Another phenomenon is very devout people, not used to talking about their faith, who call God "the man upstairs." I've always seen that as a way to try to deal with the awe.

And besides, let's dream: Wouldn't it just dislocate your jaw in joy if The Dear Leader one day said, "Okay, people, I've had a change of heart. The real solution to all our problems including health care, is Jesus the Christ."

Anyway, St Faustina, pray for us.

7 posted on 01/29/2010 7:08:13 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: RnMomof7

This is about that sister you think is bogus.


8 posted on 01/29/2010 7:09:36 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: stfassisi

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9 posted on 01/29/2010 7:10:10 AM PST by diamond6 (Expose Planned Parenthood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYaTywSDmls)
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To: Mad Dawg

This does not prove anything even Benny Hinn , a true heretic , has” healing “to his account.. God will have mercy on who “he will have mercy”..it has nothing to do with men ..


10 posted on 01/29/2010 8:20:10 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: Mad Dawg
This does not prove anything even Benny Hinn , a true heretic , has" healing "to his account.. God will have mercy on who "He will have mercy"..it has nothing to do with men or specific places..

BTW it is God that should get the glory for the healing not anyone or anything else..

11 posted on 01/29/2010 8:24:22 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: RnMomof7

I just pinged you because I thought you would be interested. I know what a proof looks like.

Has Benny Hinn shuffled off the mortal coil yet? I am SO out of this stuff.


12 posted on 01/29/2010 8:40:40 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

God will take care of Benny.. and and many like him are wolves in sheeps clothing.

I think the problem I, and may like me have, is that there is little glory for God in any of this.. in Benny’s case they look to him , and in this case it is the saint that gets the glory

We need to keep looking to Christ :)


13 posted on 01/29/2010 8:46:22 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: stfassisi

Divine Mercy bump. Love this prayer — say it at 3:00 pm every day!


14 posted on 01/29/2010 8:48:31 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RnMomof7
I think the problem I, and ma[n]y like me have, is that there is little glory for God in any of this.

This is when I feel my words are so futile.

I can't speak for anybody else, but for me, "The Lord is glorious in His saints."*

Of course, in the poisoned atmosphere of discussions with Protestants I have to add that is not the only way God is glorious.

Yesterday was the memorial (for non-Dominicans) and feast (for Dominicans) of Thomas Aquinas. Yes, I ask for his prayers. Yes, I think his modesty, devotion, and life in general provide a heroic example. Yes, I think he was a genius.

But most of all I look at him, shake my head, and say to God, "Thank you for this amazing brother! Wow!"

As I said earlier, I don't 'follow' St Faustina much, but I am very grateful to her and to what God did in her, if only for the notion that I can and should remind myself that my trust should be placed in Jesus and in God's mercy.

So for us, that God chooses (if that be the case) to do miracles at a shrine of this saint, SURE that is a reminder of what God did in her, but au fond it's always about God.

In any event, what most of us know about St, Faustina is that she told us all to place our trust in the Divine Mercy. if the news or the miracle story is about what happened at her shrine, well and good. Maybe the healed and those who love them will be led to hear what St. Faustina taught. And then it will turnout that the glory is returned to God from whom it came.



*Everyday of prayer begins with what we call the "invitatory psalm". We begin "Lord open my lips// and my mouth will proclaim your praise," which you will recognize as a verse from Psalm 51. Then usually we say Psalm 95, but sometimes 67, 24, or 100. (I always do 95.) But we have what we call an antiphon, something like a refrain, said after each strophe.

For great teachers the antiphon is "Come let us worship the Lord, fount of all wisdom." But the general antiphon for saints says is something like "The Lord is glorious in his saints, come let us worship Him," or "Come let us worship the Lord, the king of martyrs," or words to that effect.

It's always God, but we're not going to ignore that great things he has done.

15 posted on 01/29/2010 9:46:15 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Dawg, just look at the title of this thread (and many others) The glory is to Mary or saints etc.. not to God.

In this case it is suggested God did it because he was asked by this woman ..so then the glory goes to her for asking..cause if someone else asked maybe he would not have done it..

The normal Catholic response is to get some medals and publish public thanks to her in your local paper . God is a secondary thought, God’s sovereignty and the fact that all healing and all miracles are from His hand..not some dead humans is easily overlooked in Catholic doctrine .It is hidden under a bunch of words giving first glory to a creation of his

It keeps coming back to the 1st commandment.. I will have no other gods BEFORE me..

That can be seen as not giving anyone glory BEFORE we give it to Him..

I think there are many holy saints that have gone before us, they are wonderful examples on how to live our lives .. but they went not in their strength but Gods.


16 posted on 01/29/2010 11:31:22 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: RnMomof7
Nox. What it comes down to is people who read not words but what is in their minds. The title of the thread with added emphasis, is:
How Was This Woman Healed?(Hint: It Involves a Certain Saint, a Certain Shrine..)

How that gives glory here or there is not clear. 'Involves" is a pretty noncommittal word. As such it serves as an unbolt, a Rorschach test, in which what the reader sees is not necessarily in the words but in what the reader brings to the reading.

As to "God did it because he was asked by this woman ..so then the glory goes to her for asking..cause if someone else asked maybe he would not have done it.."

We are told,"The prayer of a righteous man availeth much." We are told to ask for ourselves and for others. What, shall we avoid asking for fear that glory would go to the asker?

When I was teaching, I always cautioned people against saying "Prayer works." I think it is like a beggar who prides himself because he begs near the house of a rich and generous man. Prayer does not "work." GOD works.

Aslan (you DO know the Narnia books, don't you?) always refuses to answer what might have been. "We do not know, we cannot tell" what would have happened if St Faustina's intercession had not been asked and, evidently, given.

God is a secondary thought, God’s sovereignty and the fact that all healing and all miracles are from His hand..not some dead humans is easily overlooked in Catholic doctrine .

First, I do not see how you can know this. Second I do not see what difference it makes. I have heard more lame explanations of the Theory of Relativity than I can count. I don't blame Einstein. That the truth can be misunderstood does not mean it is not the truth.

I wear a medal with Dominic on one side and our Lady, and Sts. Dominic and Catherine of Sienna on the other. I also wear a Miraculous Medal sort of superimposed on a cross. I guess I can't expect to be believed but I'll say God knows whom I worship, and I don't see how you possibly could know.

I think there are many holy saints that have gone before us, they are wonderful examples on how to live our lives .. but they went not in their strength but God[']s.

No argument there. ONE reason we celebrate All Saints Day is precisely to acknowledge that there are far more Saints than we can know or name. Despite the evidence from our Daily Prayers wherein we glorify God for what He does in His saints, we are still told we don't.

I know what I prayed yesterday. We had evening prayer in chapter so I know what my bubbas and sissies prayed yesterday PM. And we thanked God for what He gave us in Thomas Aquinas.

It is really quite incredible when I think about it. I know what my Church teaches. I know how I think and feel about saints, and yet people who have known me for a few weeks online tell me that they know better than I what I think and feel.

How seriously am I supposed to take the arguments, or not even arguments but just accusations, from such an accuser?

17 posted on 01/29/2010 12:34:29 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Come on Dawg...I am not stupid..

maybe the headline should have given God glory..

How about

God heals a woman of longstanding illness?


18 posted on 01/29/2010 12:51:33 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: RnMomof7

This is the second time we’ve dealt with this. The text says one thing and you insist it says another, and claim it is the fault of the text or its writer. In both cases it’s a conclusion drawn not just without evidence but in spite of the evidence.

Oh well I have to go worship cookies and juice and Mary and the other saints and, what’s His name? Oh, I forget. Some Jewish guy.


19 posted on 01/29/2010 1:09:37 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

It was nice of the poster to at least imply she did not do it herself.. that there was someone else involved.


20 posted on 01/29/2010 1:23:15 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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