Dawg, just look at the title of this thread (and many others) The glory is to Mary or saints etc.. not to God.
In this case it is suggested God did it because he was asked by this woman ..so then the glory goes to her for asking..cause if someone else asked maybe he would not have done it..
The normal Catholic response is to get some medals and publish public thanks to her in your local paper . God is a secondary thought, God’s sovereignty and the fact that all healing and all miracles are from His hand..not some dead humans is easily overlooked in Catholic doctrine .It is hidden under a bunch of words giving first glory to a creation of his
It keeps coming back to the 1st commandment.. I will have no other gods BEFORE me..
That can be seen as not giving anyone glory BEFORE we give it to Him..
I think there are many holy saints that have gone before us, they are wonderful examples on how to live our lives .. but they went not in their strength but Gods.
How that gives glory here or there is not clear. 'Involves" is a pretty noncommittal word. As such it serves as an unbolt, a Rorschach test, in which what the reader sees is not necessarily in the words but in what the reader brings to the reading.
As to "God did it because he was asked by this woman ..so then the glory goes to her for asking..cause if someone else asked maybe he would not have done it.."
We are told,"The prayer of a righteous man availeth much." We are told to ask for ourselves and for others. What, shall we avoid asking for fear that glory would go to the asker?
When I was teaching, I always cautioned people against saying "Prayer works." I think it is like a beggar who prides himself because he begs near the house of a rich and generous man. Prayer does not "work." GOD works.
Aslan (you DO know the Narnia books, don't you?) always refuses to answer what might have been. "We do not know, we cannot tell" what would have happened if St Faustina's intercession had not been asked and, evidently, given.
God is a secondary thought, God’s sovereignty and the fact that all healing and all miracles are from His hand..not some dead humans is easily overlooked in Catholic doctrine .
First, I do not see how you can know this. Second I do not see what difference it makes. I have heard more lame explanations of the Theory of Relativity than I can count. I don't blame Einstein. That the truth can be misunderstood does not mean it is not the truth.
I wear a medal with Dominic on one side and our Lady, and Sts. Dominic and Catherine of Sienna on the other. I also wear a Miraculous Medal sort of superimposed on a cross. I guess I can't expect to be believed but I'll say God knows whom I worship, and I don't see how you possibly could know.
I think there are many holy saints that have gone before us, they are wonderful examples on how to live our lives .. but they went not in their strength but God[']s.
No argument there. ONE reason we celebrate All Saints Day is precisely to acknowledge that there are far more Saints than we can know or name. Despite the evidence from our Daily Prayers wherein we glorify God for what He does in His saints, we are still told we don't.
I know what I prayed yesterday. We had evening prayer in chapter so I know what my bubbas and sissies prayed yesterday PM. And we thanked God for what He gave us in Thomas Aquinas.
It is really quite incredible when I think about it. I know what my Church teaches. I know how I think and feel about saints, and yet people who have known me for a few weeks online tell me that they know better than I what I think and feel.
How seriously am I supposed to take the arguments, or not even arguments but just accusations, from such an accuser?