Posted on 01/27/2010 10:31:28 AM PST by NYer
Grandpa had about 6 kids with his first wife who died pretty young. Then he had 9 more with my grandmother. So maybe the old guy was just warn out by that time.
Grandpa had about 6 kids with his first wife who died pretty young. Then he had 9 more with my grandmother. So maybe the old guy was just warn out by that time.
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(You didn't really have 5 days of safe time unless your cycle was incredibly short. You had 5 days of safe time that you recognized.)
Not only that, temp can be affected by so many things. I would get so many blips on my chart just due to waking up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom! Temp can be affected by taking Tylenol, Benadryl or even a glass of wine before bed. Then you have to take into account your stress level, which pretty much goes through the roof trying to figure out NFP!
Oh, for spellcheck — which I didn’t use! LOL!
abstain during fertile times.
My wife is a doc -- she says, "If the Pill had nothing to do with sex, it never would have been [FDA] approved"
Doesn’t matter to me right now as we’re in “having kids mode” - but it would take something like that. I just get sick of people claiming that NFP is this super birth control thing that totally works for everyone.
Obviously most days of a cycle, a woman is not fertile. But nfp type material always sounds like you can actually identify which days those are with some degree of certainty, and for a lot of women that’s just not true.
they only abstain during fetile times.
That seems to sum it up pretty well. Except for the mechanics, what’s is there to read up about?
You don’t want kids so you do something to prevent it.
Actually, she's not doing something that would cause it.
That's not quite the same thing, in anybody's morality.
I think you're operating from the tacit assumption that the objective is what determines the morality of an act, but the means by which that objective is achieved also matters.
"Not conceiving right now" is a perfectly moral objective for a married couple in some circumstances. How they achieve that objective is what's at issue.
lol OBIVIOUSLY YOU DON’T HAVE 9 KIDS....
True, true.
Expensive jewelry and buying clothes are usually the price to pay.
My question exactly. I can’t remember the reasoning used during our pre-marriage class (had to do precana because husband to be was Catholic), but it was pretty crazy. It reminded me of the game 6 ways to Kevin Bacon.
I respect your conviction but just don’t share it.
I have 2 — we may have a 3rd at some point. After that, its kinda over (wife’s pulling the plug biologically). Nine is a little out of the realm of possibility.
Not willing to sacrifice my nighttime social agenda, I suppose. :)
SnakeDoc
The 2nd child does work reasonably well.
As one wag put it, "the best birth control is....marriage."
I once thought so, but had the fortune(and sometimes misfortune) of having to eat only food raised/grown, cooked and stored the old fashioned way. No chemicals, processing, freezing, refined grains, refined sugar, etc.
After suffering the first month or so, I realized I never felt better in my life. For nearly 6 months, I didnt have a single day where I felt unusually tired or blah.
Then I (very) distinctly remember having my first greasy fast-food meal after returning to NY. I felt sick throughout my body for about a day and it actually seemed to cloud my brain.
Food production in this country has become too industrialized, powerful and unregulated, IMO. There are too many shortcuts, chemicals and additives that are pressured for approval by the food lobby. I find it sad that its nearly impossible to eat now without ingesting man-made chemicals.
I wish I could eat all natural again but its damn near impossible if you travel often.
One of my friends just had her 8th child. Her husband has two other from a previous marriage. They plan 1 or 2 more.
maybe you might have talked about it as an alternative before marriage
“Temp can be affected by taking Tylenol, Benadryl or even a glass of wine before bed”
Receptivity can be affected by a glass of wine before bed too.
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