Posted on 01/24/2010 4:54:22 PM PST by Colofornian
oh, gag.
http://atlah.org/
ATLAH World Ministries (”All Jesus, All The Time”)
seems like a typical ‘non-traditional Christian’ site.
“We worship on Saturday at 11 A.M. EST. We are Sabbath worshippers!”
“[The area] Formerly known Harlem has been renamed: ATLAH”
“ATLAH means, the land where the people shall walk barefoot, because the land is holy ground.”
“Given to Pastor James David Manning, by Almighty God, 14 September 1991”
Godzilla, do not make this thread "about" individual posters. That is also a form of "making it personal."
Lets see,
A guy claims to receive revelation...
sets up a “holy city” (a Zion)...
And milks money out of followers...
what next? is he going to claim to have received new “scripture” found on brass plates under the Statue of Liberty?
It really boils down to this, if you don't have a personal relationship with Jesus, it really doesn't matter what else you believe or what religion you are, Christian or otherwise. Lots of Christians go to church but, don't know Jesus. I had no clue, no one ever told me, that I had to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, that was all that mattered. I just thought, I called myself a Christian so I was ok. That change in 1975, when I gave my life to Christ.
The best book I ever read on cults was, Kingdom of the Cults by Walter Martin. Excellent book!!!
hehe, that’s what i was wondering...
the site is even kookier than it seems at first glance
it’s almost as funny as the FR Religion Forum!
My relative also got to this country in the 1620’s and married my other relatives who were already here. I think you call the Indians.
Good point! Mormons before there were mormons. How did they manage that?
My first were Dutch Walloons, 1623..
I dont think I have any Native Americans in my direct line...
But their brothers married into the New York tribes...
LOL
The mormon mindset...
Lots of Christians go to church but, don’t know Jesus. I just thought, I called myself a Christian so I was ok.
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that was me too. That is part of how I got sucked into the Mormon Church. I became a Christian 6 months after I went “inactive” in the LDS church.
That is a good book, especially for general overviews.
it’s almost as funny as the FR Religion Forum!
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LOL. I wouldn’t go THAT far...FR RF is in a class of of its own. ;)
Baptsim for the dead, before they were born.
Hey, it makes as much sense at JS’s “first vision”
Baptsim for the dead, before they were born.
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YOURE KIDDING !!!!!
Baptism for the dead?! How can the dead be baptized? That seems to me to be crazy.
my intent wasn’t personal, but I see where I could have used other words to alert you to the issue. Noted for future occurances.
yeah.
Baptism for the dead?! How can the dead be baptized? That seems to me to be crazy.
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They can’t. However the LDS take one verse of 1 Corinthians (15:29) out of context (Paul is discussing the Resurrection not baptism), and READ INTO IT a doctrine that is not Biblical yet becomes the foundation for much of their faith.
The LDS believe that non-mormons, when the die, go to “spirit prison” (similar to Purgatory) where they wait for Mormons here on earth to have them baptized (by proxy) into the Mormon faith. Only really good, ‘worthy’, Mormons can go back into the presence of God, everyone else goes to ‘lesser’ kingdoms, except for apostates or “sons of perdition” who go to “outer darkness” instead of Hell. “Outer Darkness” is the ultimate deep-freeze.
After this, a Mormon will also go through one of their temples doing other Mormons rites on their behalf that Mormons consider necessary to get into heaven:
...ordaining them to the LDS priesthood - men only,
... Endowments - where they learn the secret handshakes and make oaths to the Mormon Church which is required to get into Heaven.
...Temple Marriage which the believe still holds in heaven AKA Marriage for Eternity (which is also unbiblical).
..and a few others but those are the biggies.
The worst part about their work for the dead is the disrespect it shows the non-mormon descendants or their own wishes or faith.
For example, I know a man who was LDS, he was married to a Catholic woman and she stated to him several times she did not want to be baptized LDS after she died. A few years later, she and their son were killed in a car crash. The husband respected her wishes BUT HIS parents, KNOWING SHE DIDN”T WANT IT, went ahead and had “temple work” done for her and the son against their OWN LDS son’s wishes as well.
The whole practice strikes me as rather selfish, although that is the last thing the LDS claim it to be.
Hope this helps and yes it is crazy.
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