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What is theology?
Why is the study of theology important?
Where do we go to learn about theology?
What is the Bible About?
What Makes the Bible Unique?
Can anyone read and understand the bible on his own?
Does the Church have to interpret the bible?
What principles of interpretation are necessary to study the bible?
What does the term “grammatical-historical hermeneutic” mean, and why is it important?
Is a “grammatical-historical hermeneutic” different from a “Christ-centered hermeneutic”?
Is the whole bible about Christ, or just the New Testament?
Isn't it reading too much into the Old Testament to see references to Christ on every page?
Wasn't the Old Testament written especially to the Jews, so that it doesn't apply in the same way to Christians?
What does the term “sensus plenior” mean?
Is a grammatical-historical hermeneutic opposed to sensus plenior?
What does the term "analogy of faith" mean?
What is the Gospel?
What is Dispensationalism?
Is Dispensationalism biblical?
1 posted on 01/23/2010 7:05:44 AM PST by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock
Does the bible teach a pre-tribulational rapture?

Nope.

Glad I could help.

2 posted on 01/23/2010 7:08:21 AM PST by tx_eggman (Obama has "Czars" because men with more integrity than he has still use the titles "Don" and "Capo")
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To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; AZhardliner; ...

Ping


3 posted on 01/23/2010 7:08:36 AM PST by Gamecock (We always have reasons for doing what we do.)
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To: Gamecock
It makes as much sense to presuppose that Biblical prophecies may be "recycled", that is, used one more time preparatory to the coming of the Messiah.

We certainly are well into another "slaughter of the innocent", and who can escape the consequences of thousands of "virgin births".

That one thought ~ reusable prophetic messages ~ is certainly simpler than the enormous scaffold of human doctrines built up to sustain the supposed Rapture.

4 posted on 01/23/2010 7:11:11 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Gamecock

1 Thes 4:16-18

[16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

[18] Wherefore comfort one another with these words.


5 posted on 01/23/2010 7:11:22 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Gamecock

Matt. 24:21-42

[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

[22] And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

[23] Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

[24] For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

[25] Behold, I have told you before.

[26] Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

[27] For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

[28] For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

[29] Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

[30] And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

[31] And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

[32] Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

[33] So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

[34] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

[35] Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

[36] But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

[37] But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

[38] For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

[39] And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

[40] Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

[41] Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

[42] Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

He will test His own but before the end comes, He will remove His own. It’s all about people who believe in Him.

His nature hasn’t changed ... Noah, Lot and other situations ... He will remove His own FIRST.


8 posted on 01/23/2010 7:16:51 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Gamecock

Gamecock,
Whatever your belief, the article is pretty shallow.

Will God turn to His people, the Jews again? The Apostle Paul says He will in Romans. Never does he confuse the two groups -
Christians and the nation of Israel in Romans. He goes to
great lengths to communicate that the gifts and callings of
God are irrevocable - as evidence that God will fulfill His
promises to the Patriarchs.

I have come to the conviction that God’s plan on Earth includes
two peoples. One, the earthy people - the Jews - and the other,
a heavenly Bride of Christ, composed of the Church.

I am amazed at the navel gazing that happens in some quarters
of Christianity that makes Christians the center of God’s
work - instead of His glory. But that is me. Let each man
be convinced in his own mind.

I wish you the best,
ampu


12 posted on 01/23/2010 7:46:06 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Gamecock

Pre-Tribulational Rapture... Seven year Dispensationalism... Etc.

‘Tis my considered opinion that, just as the Jewish Pharisees and Saducees and priests and scribes couldn’t recognize Jesus-Messiah way back when, so our prophecy-interpreting religious professionals won’t have a ghost of a clue if he returns during their time.


17 posted on 01/23/2010 7:56:05 AM PST by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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To: Gamecock

Well the WORD, which we are told is God, says that a multitude of ‘Christians’ will believe in flying to save their souls. But the Heavenly Father had Ezekiel to pen that he is against those that teach and believe they will fly to save their souls.

Paul never taught there would be a ‘rapture’, even though some see that as his meaning.

What is demonstrated in a rapture belief is the lack of knowledge as to what the tribulation is, that has never been before in this flesh age. And there are two tribulations, the first one is deception, and the second one is the recognition of what deception was believed of the first tribulation.


19 posted on 01/23/2010 8:01:45 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Gamecock
After this Hendryx series, you have someone on-tap who does take all the Bible seriously, and not as interpreted by a select Reformed magisterium?
21 posted on 01/23/2010 8:28:28 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Gamecock

A lot of great arguements for pre, mid and post -trib. here...

I think the WHOLE point is:

Be ready -NOW. Live it -NOW.

;~)


23 posted on 01/23/2010 8:52:54 AM PST by joethedrummer
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To: Gamecock

Christianity should not be centered upon nightmares of ending the world, but instead should be centered upon the good work needed to make the world a better place.


25 posted on 01/23/2010 9:02:51 AM PST by Dr. North
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To: Gamecock
Roms.5:9 Much more then, having now been justfied by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.

1Thes. 1:10 and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.

1Thes. 5:9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,

Rev. 3:10 Because you have kept My command to perservere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world to test those who dwell on the earth.

The Tribulation is for Israel not for us.

34 posted on 01/23/2010 3:14:30 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Gamecock

Just putting it out there that the Greek word “coming” (parousia) used almost exclusively in the New Testament verses describing the Lord’s 2nd Advent - is a present tense, singular noun. One return, one coming, one event.

Just something I’ve seen over the years.


35 posted on 01/23/2010 3:25:33 PM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Go now. Run along and tell your Xerxes that he faces Free Men here...not slaves.")
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