Posted on 01/23/2010 3:48:39 AM PST by Biggirl
Is there life after death? Theologians can debate all they want, but radiation oncologist Dr. Jeffrey Long argues that if you look at the scientific evidence, the answer is unequivocally yes. Drawing on a decade's worth of research on near-death experiences work that includes cataloguing the stories of some 1,600 people who have gone through them he makes the case for that controversial conclusion in a new book, Evidence of the Afterlife. Medicine, Long says, cannot account for the consistencies in the accounts reported by people all over the world. He talked to TIME about the nature of near-death experience, the intersection between religion and science and the Oprah effect.
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If the “visions” are part of the brain’s dying process, which I have read before, then how is it that the “newly dead” portions of the brain come back to life when the person recovers? Why isn’t this brain damage permanent?
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9601/little_buddha/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/movies/2009484558_mr17unmistaken.html
One boy decided he didn’t want to be a monk any more:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/31/dalai-lama-osel-hita-torres
China tries to regulate reincarnation:
http://www.cecc.gov/pages/virtualAcad/index.phpd?showsingle=98716
“...As elderly reincarnations pass away, the measures authorize government officials to decide whether or not a reincarnation is eligible to reincarnate, and if one is permitted, the government will supervise the search for the subsequent reincarnation, as well as religious education and training...”
And thx for the Hawking link!
Thank you, I hesitate to stumble around in this area, but I find the conclusions that can be drawn so very striking and exciting.
You may be interested in the discussion we're having at # 39 on this thread.
And you know this how?
Christ told Nicodemus that one had to be born from above in order to see the kingdom of God. So it is curious that the ‘science’ world is even contemplating delving into a theory they cannot see and test.
While I don't believe in resurrection by magic wand, I find it hard to discount that one day we won't develop the technology to recreate consciousness. Multiple universes and convergent evolution also raise the possibility of a person experiencing eternal consciousness in some form. There are probably other possibilities I can't even imagine.
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I’ve worked with this for about 20+ years, using all different modalities including hypnosis. I’ve had people who were in surgery under anesthesia tell me of leaving their body during the surgery and telling me details of the conversations between those attending and details about phone calls made when one of the Drs left the room. This included the phone numbers and details of the conversation in the other room. We called the numbers she gave me and verified them.
The most bizarre case I did was the first one in the early 1990’s when I was using hypnosis to help a 38 year old emergency room nurse deal with the pain of severe arthritus. She was going on disability it was so severe. Ordinarily, I would not do this as pain is a symptom and it could be caused by a tumor or something which needs to be diagnosed. This woman had been through the works of testing and her Dr said it was ok to use hypnosis for pain management.
She went immediately into a deep trance, and all I did was ask her “ If the pain in her shoulder could speak... What would it say?” A male voice answered me out of her mouth and said...”Get out of here!” Startled, I responded with the question...”Who said that?”
This guy proceeded to tell me his name, his address, his phone number, his wife’s and children’s names.... I asked him what he was doing here. He replied that he was killed in a car accident, where it was at and how it happened. He explained that he followed his body in the ambulance into the emergency room at the hospital where he saw this woman working. She was emotionally out of sorts which allowed him to move in and attach. I asked him why he stayed and he said he loved her... All this was totally outside my belief system and in response to non directive questions..
I went on to ask him exactly what caused his death. He explained that he was thrown from the car and it rolled on him. I asked what part of his body and he told me the left side, arm, shoulder and chest. This was the exact area where this woman’s pain was located. This is when I first realized that memories are stored in the soul and not in the physical body. His memories were manifesting as her pain!
He explained that he did not know he was causing her pain... Thus he agreed to leave. Her arm went up in the air and then went limp. He was gone and so was her arthritus.... This was the first of many, many situations with earthbound spirits.
Through this, I developed a technique that is real simple that allows me to read people’s souls and tell them what happened in their life since conception, without them saying anything, without touching them, and with no input at all from them. I’ve done this in university settings with total strangers who volunteered from the group. Needless to say, it freaks out the neuroscientists and MD’s. I’ll be doing a demonstration in North Carolina next Sat. for a group of psychologists. I use this as a depth psychology tool to help people heal emotional trauma.
Using what I learned from this, I have worked with people with severe emotional memories of trauma and removed the emational pain in about a minute, permanantly. This in front of groups as a demonstration, without them ever disclosing to anyone what the trauma was... I’ve done this with several vets (privately) and found that I can remove PTSD in a few minutes... permanantly.
Why... memories are stored at the soul level, the portion of us that nothing can destroy, not even an atomic bomb dropped on top of our head. Fear and anger can shackle it for a long time though!
I use these demonstrations to explain how Jeus did his healings and why the Bible teaches what it does. It’s all about healing the soul. ....
Ps. I have worked with vets who were in some bad war situations and removed spirits from them that spoke fluently in the vet’s enemies dialect. These guys did not know the language they spoke under hypnosis. This is the tip of the iceberg of many, many sessions!
Not the Rhine Research Center Institute by any chance? The successor to the Parapsychology Laboratory at Duke University?
You may as well identify yourself here on FR, since you've given enough information to do so via web search. I find it interesting that you're approaching this in an apparently Christian manner, and are gaining an audience with a group noted for overt hostility to same.
Thank you for this reply - it is very interesting. Some questions:
1. Are you a Christian? These descriptions of spirits and death certainly do not conform to what I hear in church.
2. What is your academic background? I have a law degree, so I have no academic background on these topics.
3. Have you written books or articles? Do you recommend other books or articles by scientists/Drs on this topic?
4. Did you check to details of the man’s auto accident to see if they were accurate, and was this made public? His widow and kids might be interested.
5. Lastly, your experiences are very interesting to say the least. I am 63 and have been reading science all my life in the popular press, yet I have never heard of your work. Why is that?
I have not heard of his work, or any such work. Have you?
“If I knew God I’d be Him.”
I guess I wasn't clear enough. He has a PhD. His position is Assistant Professor: Division of Perceptual Studies, Department of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences, University of Virginia Health System.
ML/NJ
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This isn't the book I mentioned.
BTW, Tucker's bio is here.
ML/NJ
The parallel universe(s) is a big part of why I think quantum physics supports the existence of life after the body becomes what we call “dead.”
See my posts elsewhere on the thread if you’re interested.
It would be disputable as to what actually constitutes as “newly dead”.
Are they able to measure if biochemical activity within the cells, have truly ceased? I don’t think so.
I belong to the Rhine Center as well. JB Rhine was on the faculty at Duke University. I know his daughter Sally who heads it now and have been to her house a few times.
It’s a good group as they do focus on the science of the paranormal.
Oh, by the way... I have no problem presenting myself as a Chrisitan. Universal truths are true in all religions. Next month I am presenting to a group of Buddhists. I’ve done the same for Hindu-Vedic groups. I see no problem with them when you go to the “core” truths which are universal to all of them.
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