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To: Vanders9
( But I concur - there is a strand in modern Christianity that seems to believe the third person of the trinity is not the Holy Spirit but Holy Scripture. Reading the bible is good, but it is not the only way God reveals himself to creation. )

It's was the Holy Spirit who inspired those who wrote the Bible, however, the bible does tell us that in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God and the word became flesh ( Jesus Christ ).
It's all how you put it in context and perspective.
God reveals himself to us in many ways, as in nature, other people, and ( yes, still today ) by his own voice, but, first and foremost he reveals himself through and by his word that was written by God's chosen writers who were " INSPIRED " by the Holy Spirit.
There are some things in the Bible that can only be understood by being enlighten by the Holy Spirit, and truth revealed to those who are filled by the Holy Spirit, the average unregenerate natural man can not nor ever understand and comprehend many things in the Bible.
19 posted on 01/06/2010 5:17:32 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: American Constitutionalist
There are some things in the Bible that can only be understood by being enlighten by the Holy Spirit, and truth revealed to those who are filled by the Holy Spirit, the average unregenerate natural man can not nor ever understand and comprehend many things in the Bible.

This is simply an assertion. Anything written (or spoken) in a language can be understood by someone with enough experience and background with that language regardless of whether he believes what he is reading (or hearing). There are many things in scripture that even believers have difficulty understanding and, according to Peter, the unstable and ignorant can "wrest, as they do the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."

According to the Bible, reading or hearing (and the understanding) comes before believing (Romans 10:14).
21 posted on 01/06/2010 5:29:26 AM PST by aruanan
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To: American Constitutionalist
...but, first and foremost he reveals himself through and by his word that was written by God's chosen writers who were " INSPIRED " by the Holy Spirit.

Would that be the written word, or THE Word?

Actually, I agree with everything you wrote. As I said earlier, I have personal experience of the truth of your last statement in particular.

As you say, God reveals Himself in many ways. The Bible is just one of them. Probably the major one at this particular period in history, certainly in the west anyway. What I was referring to in the statement that you commented on was that there are believers whose love for scripture is so great that they almost confine the Holy Spirit to its pages. In fact, the third person of the trinity is God and therefore sovereign and can operate in whatever way desired.

30 posted on 01/06/2010 8:29:57 AM PST by Vanders9
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