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To: vladimir998
Last I checked, 2/3 of the Bible (the Old Testament) was written by Jews before Christ, and the other 1/3 by the Apostles after Christ--NONE of which are the organization of the Roman Catholic Church. Leadership of the Church universal was NOT based in Rome when the New Testament was authored, rather in Jerusalem (check Acts 15, that's in the New Testament). You might also note there, that James, not Peter, was the leading Apostle at that time (about AD 50).

As far as formally RECOGNIZING (and recognizing is very different than CREATING) the books we know as the New Testament, in the 3rd and 4th Century, yes Rome had a large part--but, the Orthodox (making up 4/5 of the Church then) were also the major part of the Church universal at that time--and the Bishop of Rome was not recognized as the supreme head of all the Church either.

It's the worst kind of revisionist history to claim the Roman Catholic Church created the Bible. It's analogous to saying the Supreme Court "created" the U.S. Constitution--when they are only supposed to recognize, and uphold it.

38 posted on 01/05/2010 9:26:44 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

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“Last I checked, 2/3 of the Bible (the Old Testament) was written by Jews before Christ, and the other 1/3 by the Apostles after Christ—NONE of which are the organization of the Roman Catholic Church.”

Actually Christ founded the Catholic Church. All the Apostles were bishops in it and served Christ through it.

“Leadership of the Church universal was NOT based in Rome when the New Testament was authored, rather in Jerusalem (check Acts 15, that’s in the New Testament).”

Irrelevant. It doesn’t matter where the leadership was. The leader, St. Peter, settled eventually in Rome - as even many Protestant scholars agree.

“You might also note there, that James, not Peter, was the leading Apostle at that time (about AD 50).”

No, he was not. I realize that most Protestants understand scripture too poorly to actually understand what is said in Acts 15.

“As far as formally RECOGNIZING (and recognizing is very different than CREATING) the books we know as the New Testament, in the 3rd and 4th Century, yes Rome had a large part—but, the Orthodox (making up 4/5 of the Church then) were also the major part of the Church universal at that time—and the Bishop of Rome was not recognized as the supreme head of all the Church either.”

Actually he was. There was no “Orthodox Church” or “Orthodox Churches” as if they were separate from the Catholic Church. Not even the Orthodox claim that.

“It’s the worst kind of revisionist history to claim the Roman Catholic Church created the Bible.”

Catholics wrote the New Testament - under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Catholics decided - with the guidance of the Holy Spirit - what books belonged in the canon. That’s not revisionism. That’s just history. No other church can make these claims. And no Protestant sect would be in its existence for many centuries yet.

“It’s analogous to saying the Supreme Court “created” the U.S. Constitution—when they are only supposed to recognize, and uphold it.”

No, it is not analogous to it. The Holy Spirit inspired Catholic writers of the New Testament. The Holy Spirit guided the Catholic Church to decide on the canon. The Supreme Court did not write the Constitution but Catholics did write the New Testament. The Supreme Court did not decide what was part of the original constitution, but the Catholic Church did decide the canon.


39 posted on 01/06/2010 7:30:32 AM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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