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Mormonism is not Christianity...

So says orthodox Christians.

While Christians worship Jesus as the coming King at Christimas time...and display the Baby Jesus in the manger..

Mormons worship Joey Smith and display a cradle in a cabin for him...Jesus is not mentioned...

You know, I saw that picture the other day. It was funny to me. I am pretty sure where ever that is, that at Christmas time there is appropriate Christmas decorations.

My wife is insane. She has at least 15 or so nativity scenes around the house. She kept about 5 of them up all year long.

So no, we don't worship Joseph Smith. We do revere him as our first prophet and the restorer of the Gospel of Christ. But we do not worship him, regardless of what you may suggest below.

Christians sing Christmas Carols...about the birth of Jesus..

mormons sing “Praise the man” about Joey Smith...

Maybe once in December, near his birthday. But Mormons also sing Christmas Carols. We do have them in our hymnal. I count 14 of them. I happen to have the list of hymns for our ward's sacrament meeting for this month.

Dec 6th - O #203 Angels We Have Heard on High, S - #181 Jesus of Nazareth, Savior and King, C - #213 The First Noel
Dec 13th - O - #212 Far, Far Away on Judea's Plains - S - #O Savior, Thou Who Wearest a Crown - Special Music (mens quartet singing Away in a Manger) - C - #209 Hark, The Herald Angels Sing
Dec 20th - O - #201 Joy to the World - S - #Jesus, Once of Humble Birth - Primary (3songs) - Ward Choir (The First Noel and Hark! the Herald Angels Sing) - C - #204 Silent Night
Dec 27th - O - #134 I Believe in Christ - S - #193 I Stand All Amazed - I - #202 Oh Come, All Ye Faithful - C - #217 Come, Let Us Anew

Sure looks like we sing Christmas Carols. Of course, you have to pretend otherwise, or you wouldn't be able to make these false claims.

Then again, you just admitted that Mormons are Christians, since only "Christians sing Christmas Carols." Oops. :)

And then there’s Easter...

Where we sing two or three of the four Easter Hymns in our Hymnal - 197 O Savior, Thou Who Wearest a Crown, 198 That Easter Morn, 199 He is Risen!, 200 Christ the Lord is Risen Today.

Oh, were you suggesting something else here?

So Merry Smithmas to all the mormons...

And Merry Christmas to the Christians...

And Merry Christmas to so-called Christians who lie for Jesus.

You know, I saw that picture the other day. It was funny to me. I am pretty sure where ever that is, that at Christmas time there is appropriate Christmas decorations.

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That picture was taken in the BYU admin building in Dec. 2005, and the “JS nativity” as we call it, was in lieu of traditonal Christmas decorations.

Although, I do not doubt there are more “tradtional” Christmas decorations around campus, I do not remember ever seeing a nativity scene on campus (but I could be wrong).

The point nana was trying to make (I think) is that while Christmas IS a part of LDS culture, there is also (especially in Utah) an over enthusiasm for Joesph Smith’s birthday (Dec. 23).

I remember the first year I was in Utah, I was shocked that the ward had a “Happy Birthday, Joseph” party instead of a Christmas one. Others have pointed out that close to Christmas, there is many mentions of JS’s birthday (even over Christmas) in ward newsletters, programs and the like, even to the point of ward talks focusing on Joseph’s birth a couple of days before Christmas, rather than the birth of the Savior. I am sure you can see how that would be disturbing and/or bothersome to someone outside the LDS.

Many I know have commented (LDS and Ex-LDS) that is seems JS is more important this time of year than Christ.

Tennessee Nana: Mormonism is not Christianity...

T. P. Pole: So says orthodox Christians.

Seen posted multple times elesewhere on FR by Salt Lake City Momons: "fLDS aren't Mormons" (paraphrased)

So T.P., who defines the real religion?

If Orthodox Trinitarian Christians can't define Christianity, who can? Not an outsider for sure.

If outsiders make the definition, then you, by your own standards, have to see the fLDS as your brothers and sisters in Mormonism.

Now, since you want to play Christian, do you agree with Mormon teaching that:

-God had sex with Mary
-There are multiple "gods" and you yourself want to be one one day?
-That you are saved by works, with Jesus just cleaning up your act a bit?
-People can be converted after they die, and therefore you participate in creepy baptismal ceremonies?

Sorry FRiend, blaring Christmas music, putting up a tree with lights and displaying nativitiy scenes out doesn't make one a Christian. That's no different than putting a bicycle in the garage and calling it a car.

We do revere him as our first prophet and the restorer of the Gospel of Christ.

I would HOPE so!!!

Second President Brigham Young once remarked,

"I know that Joseph Smith is a Prophet of God, that this is the Gospel of salvation, and if you do not believe it you will be damned, every one of you"
(Journal of Discourses 4:298, March 29, 1857).

On October 9, 1859, Young said,

"From the day that the Priesthood was taken from the earth to the winding-up scene of all things, every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are -- I with you and you with me. I cannot go there without his consent"
(Journal of Discourses 7:289).

They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.

He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.

He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.

As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.

Who has made this so?

Have I?

Have this people?

Have the world?

No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.

If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.

If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.

Can you pass without his inspection?

No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.

In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.

They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?

They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?

"If I ever pass into heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of Prophet Joseph"
--Brigham Young
--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224

Dear Reader: what does it sound like to YOU?