“posted at 10:30 pm on November 30, 2009 by Allahpundit
curious: not one of the initial publicly identified signatories of the Manhattan Declaration is Mormon…
“That degree of commitment might seem to entitle you to a seat at the table. But no. The framers of the Manhattan Declaration say they ‘act together in obedience to the one true God, the triune God.’ Mormons do not accept the concept of God as three-in-one…
“The next wave of social conservatism is presenting itself as a particularly Christian cause, with Christian defined in a way that would exclude not only Mitt Romney, but also the man who created Tiny Tim and Ebenezer Scrooge. (Charles Dickens was a Unitarian, not a Trinitarian.) For that matter, neither George Washington, nor John Adams, nor Thomas Jefferson, nor Abraham Lincoln was a believer in the Trinitarian God of the Manhattan Declaration…
“Mormon America has provided leadership and support for conservative politics out of all proportion to its numbers. If there’s a test for conservative identity that excludes Mormons, it’s not a good test. And if conservatism has shrunk too small to contain conservative Mormons, it is not only Mormons who will search for something bigger.”
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/30/quotes-of-the-day-212/
FOCUS kid..
Charles Dickens is dead and was English born and therefore ineligible to be POTUS..
George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln ...all Americans but dead...
None of them will be running for POTUS in 2012...
Williard Mitt Romney OTOH is old but still alive...glued together by Botox and hair dye...and is running for POTUS...
He is not a conservative...never has been...
He is not pro-life...never has been...
McCain at least was pro-life...
And I dont remember reading that Dickens, Washington, Adams, Jefferson, or Lincoln ever pushed abortions like Romney
or grabbed anyones guns like Romney,
or were draft dodgers like Romney,
Would you accuse General George Washington of being a draft dodger like Romney and his family ???
Romney is nowhere near the league of those honorable men...
I’m astounded that you would mention that craven coward and butcher Romney in the proximate of the names of men who were real men and patriots and who all had guts...
I know silly not to expect it since it serves the cause.
We accept LDS folks in the cause DESPITE our reservations about their faith. Indeed I said often during the Prop 8 fight I would gladly defend LDS folk if attacked by the lefties. So did others.
But when you use the faith as an excuse to promote the UNCONSERVATIVE, well that is where we part ways.
Mitt is barely even moderate.
Mitt happens to be Mormon.
Mitt is unacceptable.
Mike Huckabee is barely even a moderate and in some cases worse then Romney.
Huckabee happens to be Evangelical.
Huckabee is unacceptable.
There will be Mormons who will defend Mitt at all costs, including the reputation as Conservatives ignoring his obvious record and failure in that regard.
There will be Evangelicals who will defend Huckabee at all costs, including their reputation as Conservatives ignoring his obvious record and failure in that regard.
To there credit there will be both Mormons, and Evangelical (indeed a greater number of both) here on FR who will reject them both despite being religious peers.
See a pattern yet there Reno?
This is not about who we want at the table, it is about what those at the table will stand for POLITICALLY. Mitt being a Mormon does not now make socialized medicine and weak abortion stances part of Conservative thought.
Oh, to your credit you finally did actually post a link to something...
May be you missed the part that this was an assembly of Christian groups. Didn't include moslems, hindus or buddists either, so I guess you know where you fit in. If the mormons wish to set out their own declaration, go for it.
There IS a test, and ROMNEY is excluded - NOT his MORMONism.