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**The victory the Bishop’s Conference enjoyed with the Stupak amendment may be short lived since the hard won pro-life language will very likely be scrubbed from the final plan. **

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2 posted on 11/08/2009 4:42:16 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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All I can say is that’s been the scuttlebutt on all the Sunday talk shows. Specifically Pelosi reassure her PRO-LIFE folks that they can take that pesky little bit about no federal money for abortion out of the bill in conference.

Pelosi lying, well imagine that.

Why should we pay for abortions. USE BIRTH CONTROL!

Just a thought.


3 posted on 11/08/2009 4:46:28 PM PST by Fishtalk
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I am concerned about the Stupak Amendment. If I understand it correctly, the language allows abortion for physical disorders.

This same language was in the Kansas bill that actually permits 3rd term abortions.

I fear they may just define pregnancy as a physical disorder.

4 posted on 11/08/2009 4:49:21 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Salvation

Arroyo is correct, they didn’t even put protections in for the elderly.

More importantly, this was a governmental ruse to get it passed. Unless a conservative filibusters the Senate, they will pass a compromise package in the Senate.

When the bill goes to Conference, the trains has left the station. The machinations of Congress will demand a bill. They will do whatever they have to do to pass a bill.

The ignorant-of-government Bishops will be long forgotten.

They may or may not get abortions language in the final bill, but it won’t be due to the Bishops, it will be based on the pork that key members gets for their vested interests.

This is why I feel the Bishops should be concentrating on saving souls and not the evil machinations of government.

jmo


6 posted on 11/08/2009 4:55:51 PM PST by rbmillerjr (It's us against them...the Establishment RINOs vs rank and file...Sarah Palin or bust)
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To: Salvation

Certainly a Comment. The Bishops got rooked.

The abortions will be paid for. One way or the other.


15 posted on 11/08/2009 5:24:46 PM PST by Venturer
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We got a copy of thel Bishops’ flyer enjoining us to call Congress about healthcare and a verbal announcement at the end of Mass. Trouble is, the announcement was written before Sat. night’s action in the House and it was totally out of sync with the current situation. Geeeesh!


28 posted on 11/09/2009 2:43:10 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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The majority of US bishops embrace a socialistic solution set, in violation of the teaching of the Church. They have embraced a radical theology of liberation (even if it comes short of technically being liberation theology). I believe they will, any moaning for the benefit of the pro-life community, embrace socialized medicine regardless of any little problems that may come with it (e.g., abortion on demand, euthanasia, rationing, shortages, etc.). It fits their overall agenda of radical transformation...and they think they will be on top...being able to direct the "brave new world"'s conscience...

32 posted on 11/09/2009 5:09:33 PM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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**The victory the Bishop’s Conference enjoyed with the Stupak amendment may be short lived since the hard won pro-life language will very likely be scrubbed from the final plan. **

If that happens, there will be hell to pay. Bunch o' liars!

33 posted on 11/09/2009 5:59:44 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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When Planned Parenthood is saying trust Nancy Pelosi, you know this is a ruse.


34 posted on 11/09/2009 6:04:21 PM PST by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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