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After the incident this past week at Fort Hood, many will undoubtedly ask again, why does God allow suffering, well I did not answer it as a whole for all people.

However I do offer my opinion why Christians must suffer, and I am sure that there are Christian suffering right now because of loved ones and relatives who are suffering from the heinous act of terrorism at Fort Hood this past week. And I am sure that their are some Christian soldiers, who are now recovering in the same hospital as their attacker is. I pray this goes a little ways to alleviate the pain, suffering, heartache, and angst that is felt by many.

1 posted on 11/08/2009 8:11:33 AM PST by OneVike
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Actually, the question is

"Why does God allow/permit the righteous to suffer and the wicked to prosper.

2 posted on 11/08/2009 8:16:59 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: OneVike

God allows you to suffer to teach you character and to grow in character.

Of course, if one wants to wallow in pity for all the suffering then you just become a caricature.


3 posted on 11/08/2009 8:19:06 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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Tough love. I look at life here as boot camp for heaven.


4 posted on 11/08/2009 8:22:02 AM PST by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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Today I take in the question of, "Why does God allow Christians to suffer?"

I pray this helps any who have wondered but just couldn't come up with an answer.

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5 posted on 11/08/2009 8:23:11 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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"God" does not "allow" christians to suffer.

Christians bring suffering - or the lack thereof - on themselves.

Proof?

Look who was elected in 2008!

Christians and christian leaning voters could have stopped this from happening. They didn't.

Christians are now "suffering" from the results of those elections.

Let's see how we'll all do in 2010 and 2012.

Just like baseball....there's always the next game.

6 posted on 11/08/2009 8:25:48 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got.)
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” If we have the right to chose between right and wrong, there is a 50% chance that we will chose to do the wrong thing and thus suffer the consequences of our sin.”

Think about what this sentence implies. I don’t think the author had his brain in gear when he/she put this together.

This is a good argument for having someone go over your work before you publish. Next time, this person should think a bit before publishing. It’s basically gibberish.


7 posted on 11/08/2009 8:26:04 AM PST by Habibi
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We have free will but the wonder is why did God give us free will?


9 posted on 11/08/2009 8:28:29 AM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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Why did God permit his Son to die?


10 posted on 11/08/2009 8:31:54 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Would you rather suffer here on earth for awhile or in hell for eternity?

I’ll take suffering now.


12 posted on 11/08/2009 8:32:43 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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This is a nice attempt, but falls short. It fails to address the question: why does God allow the INNOCENT to suffer? Why does God allow children to be brutalized and killed?

Fortunately, the answer is quite simple if you understand a basic math principle - infinity.

Heaven is eternal life in God’s love. An infinite immersion in all that is good. Think about that. Any finite quantity becomes zero *when compared to infinity*. Any mathematician worth his salt will tell you that X over infinity is zero for all finite values of X, be it one, one hundred, or one hundred trillion.

That means that any amount of finite suffering we experience in this life becomes irrelevant if we except Jesus and ascend to Heaven. The innocent are guaranteed access to Heaven, so their suffering, too, becomes zero when they enter the eternal. No one in Heaven could ever look back at worldly suffering and think it relevant in relation to the eternal.

One final analogy: it’s akin to me asking you for a mundane penny in return for a trillion dollars. That’s an exceptionally good return, right? Except it’s greater than that because a trillion dollars might run out, but God’s love never does.


13 posted on 11/08/2009 8:35:47 AM PST by bolobaby
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From the oldest book in the Bible.
Job 19:25 "As for me, I know that my Redeemer lives,
And at the last He will take His stand on the earth.

Job 19:26 "Even after my skin is destroyed,
Yet from my flesh I shall see God;

Job 19:27 Whom I myself shall behold,
And whom my eyes will see and not another.
My heart faints within me!

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

14 posted on 11/08/2009 8:36:07 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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After the incident this past week at Fort Hood, many will undoubtedly ask again, why does God allow suffering, well I did not answer it as a whole for all people. However I do offer my opinion why Christians must suffer, and I am sure that there are Christian suffering right now because of loved ones and relatives who are suffering from the heinous act of terrorism at Fort Hood this past week. And I am sure that their are some Christian soldiers, who are now recovering in the same hospital as their attacker is. I pray this goes a little ways to alleviate the pain, suffering, heartache, and angst that is felt by many.

Why is it every time there is some 'act' of violence, everybody wants God to be held to account? He gave US gray matter and it is NOT His fault if the majority of His children will not used the very brain cells HE gave them to use.

How about we point that accusing finger right where it belongs to those who allowed this man access to our military family, when he already made it known he wanted OUT.

24 posted on 11/08/2009 9:06:56 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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If we have the right to chose between right and wrong, there is a 50% chance that we will chose to do the wrong thing and thus suffer the consequences of our sin.

But this does not hold true for liberals and their elitist political representatives...1) they do not know right from wrong OR claim that the difference is a matter of opinion or a “gray area”, 2) they chose the wrong thing nearly 100% of the time, and 3) there is rarely, if ever, any consequences to those choices.


28 posted on 11/08/2009 9:25:05 AM PST by Common Sense 101
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Why?? To test and increase our faith. The more we rely on Him, the less we suffer.
Many place their faith in man’s ideas and ways rather than God.
To deny self...intellect, power and abilities...is a very hard thing for some.


30 posted on 11/08/2009 9:28:33 AM PST by jackv
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"THE PROBLEM OF SUFFERING"                                                                  
40 posted on 11/08/2009 10:04:23 AM PST by mjp (pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, independence, limited government, capitalism})
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It wasn’t supposed to be this way.


50 posted on 11/08/2009 12:08:04 PM PST by T Minus Four
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"Holy Communion is the shortest and the safest way to Heaven. There are others: Innocence, for instance, but that is for little children. Penance, but we are afraid of it. Generous endurance of the trials of life, but when they come we weep and ask to be spared. The surest, easiest, shortest way is by the Eucharist" -St. Pius X.
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Yes, Christ allows suffering, you are right, and through it, not only do we who accept these "trials of life" become more attuned to the man who experienced the greatest suffering ever on this earth, but we become an example of Christ to others if we choose to allow our suffering to make us better and not bitter. Will you learn about Jesus more completely through a great speaker who is well-groomed, athletic, handsome, and rich, or from a 9-year-old girl who is severely disabled (on a ventilator) whose loving parents and siblings roll her wheelchair slowly up to the priest (every day at Mass!) so she can receive the Body of Christ on her tongue? I think it is reasonable to say although many eyes will be on the handsome athletic rich man talking of Jesus, it will be the people who watch the little girl (and her family) receive Him with Passion that will take away the greater lesson of Christ.
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If you are "fortunate" enough to suffer on this earth while realizing at the same time it is a gift from God, your Kingdom surely awaits you in Heaven. If you haven't been given any particular suffering, yet you want to live with Jesus forever, you can listen to St. Pius X, and take the "surest, easiest, shortest way" by the Most Holy "Eucharist."
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Thank you for your nice article on suffering.
54 posted on 11/08/2009 1:51:17 PM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa of Calcutta.)
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I would not have the strength of my faith, the wisdom nor the love for my Lord today had I not been allowed to experience trials, tribulations and suffering in my life through the years. I am who I am today BECAUSE of my experiences. God has been faithful through everything and has never forsaken me. I have gone through times of doubts, as everyone who is honest must admit. But through it all I have learned to trust, rest and rely on the promises of a merciful and loving Creator who created me for a purpose. Praise his Holy name!
55 posted on 11/08/2009 2:04:21 PM PST by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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We’re HERE to grow spiritually. In the real world - the one we go to when we die - there is no evil.


68 posted on 11/08/2009 6:44:21 PM PST by GOPJ (Sad.. when a military base.. is as defenseless as a shopping mall. - Freeper:EGPWS)
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He tests those He loves. I just sometimes wish He didn’t love me so much.


73 posted on 11/08/2009 8:31:26 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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