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O.k. let's see the fireworks fly.
1 posted on 10/25/2009 1:24:34 PM PDT by Daniel Gregg
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To: Daniel Gregg

Easy Question: Jesus said Repent and believe the Gospel Mark 1:15. Jesus said it was singular I will stick with him.


2 posted on 10/25/2009 1:39:07 PM PDT by vicar7
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To: Daniel Gregg
Let me just quote one very important verse that can't possibly be taken in more ways than one. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved". Not believe and give,not believe and be good and do deeds, not go door to door and bug people, but simply believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. Forget sin, every sin that has ever been committed or will ever be committed was forgiven at the cross. (when He died for the sins of the world)

The question will not be "how much sin did you commit", "how much good did you do", but "what did you do with my Son".

3 posted on 10/25/2009 1:43:10 PM PDT by fish hawk (Lord, help us to attain knowledge and the wisdom to apply it toward your ultimate will.)
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To: Daniel Gregg
God has no reason to consider anyone perfectly righteous when they are not actually perfectly righteous unless the reason for being of the doctrine is to issue an acquittal and declare the "believer" innocent!

Ping for later

4 posted on 10/25/2009 1:47:16 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" - Job 13:15)
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To: Daniel Gregg

Your right there are two gospels recorded in the Bible (actually more than two). Your wrong about everything else you wrote beyond there are two gospels.


6 posted on 10/25/2009 2:08:18 PM PDT by PoloSec (2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, ri)
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To: Daniel Gregg

I often wonder how modern Christianity would be different if Paul was removed. To me, it seems the majority of Churches have given Paul an equal if not higher place than Christ.


10 posted on 10/25/2009 2:13:30 PM PDT by TruthBeforeAll (To liberals if something is a complete and utter disaster, it's because there's not enough of it.)
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To: Daniel Gregg
< rhetorical_question>Where've we heard this before?< /rhetorical_question>
We don't believe in TULIP. Calvinism is a cult. We can get along with them, but through bitter experience have found that they WILL not get along with us.

Got that right.

Good luck with that Law keeping stuff. Tell us how it works out, why doncha?

14 posted on 10/25/2009 2:50:00 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("What is your only comfort, in life and death?" "That I an not my own, but belong, body and soul...")
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To: Daniel Gregg
I resent your post #1. As a good Christian, which I suspect you are by your thread, by what you state in post one looks as though you are throwing this out to see how much argument you can stir up. (or “fireworks” as you call it)
16 posted on 10/25/2009 3:14:57 PM PDT by fish hawk (Lord, help us to attain knowledge and the wisdom to apply it toward your ultimate will.)
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Interesting. Devoid of substance, but interesting to see those outside the Church of Christ will go to tear her down.

“Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.” (Heb. 13:9)


19 posted on 10/25/2009 4:17:21 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: Daniel Gregg
O.k. let's see the fireworks fly.

So was that thief hanging beside Christ saved?

22 posted on 10/25/2009 5:35:34 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Daniel Gregg

Who is it that performs the act of saving? Is it Christ, or is it the sinner. It is very, very simple. The sinner cannot save - but Christ can and does!


23 posted on 10/25/2009 5:41:40 PM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: Daniel Gregg; Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; blue-duncan; HarleyD; Alex Murphy; ...
Make a commitment to be faithful to him, and you will be justiced in Messiah.

Ah, judaizing works-righteousness is still alive somewhere in the world.

May this false teaching be cursed by the triune God.

25 posted on 10/25/2009 5:58:14 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: Daniel Gregg

Galatians Chapter 1:

6: I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9: As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
10: For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11: But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12: For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.


34 posted on 10/25/2009 8:47:50 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: Daniel Gregg; topcat54; Lee N. Field
What is an acquittal? An acquittal is when a judge finds the accused innocent of all crimes. The case of the defendant is dismissed for lack of incriminating evidence, and the accused is free to go. A pardon happens when the accused is found guilty, admits their guilt, and then the judge finds a merciful reason to let them go without punishment. It is expected that the pardoned will no longer commit the crimes of their former life.

If a judge acquits a guilty person, we call it a miscarriage of justice, or if the judge knows he is acquitting the guilty, a travesty of justice. If a judge pardons someone who repents, we say the judge is merciful and wise. If the judge pardons someone who he knows will keep committing crimes and has no intention to repent then we call it an abuse of leniency.

If you are trying to describe the American justice system, then almost all of this is completely wrong. For example, acquittals do not mean a person is innocent (ask OJ), Judges do not issue pardons, executives do such as governors or the President. In addition, there is no requirement for repentance for a pardon to be issued, and there is no necessary expectation for not committing the same crime in the future (give Clinton truth serum and ask him about Mark Rich, and notice that no one criticized Clinton over this aspect of that pardon). There are more examples, but you get the idea.

In any event, even with your use of "acquittal" you are forgetting the fact that when an acquittal is rendered then NO ONE pays any price. The person, guilty or not in fact, simply goes free. No one is punished. Therefore, this would not seem to fit any comparison you are trying to make to some false gospel.

41 posted on 10/26/2009 12:21:21 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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