Posted on 10/25/2009 5:37:25 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
I think that to completely dismiss the "alien" abductions and UFO sightings is just not very intelligent. The truth is that SOME
THING is doing these things. People have their unborne babies taken with no trace. People awake with peices of symetrical metal under their skin with no visible mark. People have thousands of hours of UFO videos, of which SOME are quite legitimate. There have been millions who have said they've been abducted. I highly doubt that every single one is lying. Even if just 5 people are telling the truth then there IS somthing "out there".
As a Christian I find no evidence in the Bible that God created any other forms of life not on Earth. But then how do you explain the alien phenomenom?
What is it that's abducting people, performing surgical tests, doing genetic testing, etc..? You could say that the gov't has bred hybrid human life forms that do this, but that seems unlikely. Maybe though, Im not throwing that theory away altogether.
I strongly beleive that the Bible is full of explanations as to what these "aliens" really are. The word alien simply means not of this planet. Therefor God is an alien. And so is another creation of his. The only thing he created besides us humans. Angels. Way back in time Lucifer tried to attain God's level of power. He was cast out of heavan along with 1/3 of all the angels(the ones who followed Lucifer). Him and his followers were cast into what the Bible calls the "Third Heavan". The third heavan is simply the universe. Space, the sky around the earth, etc.../
Contrary to most people's beleif, Satan was NOT cast into hell. He was cast into the 3rd heavan. He was also given the title, "Prince of the Power of the Air". The bible says that he and his fallen angels inhabit the 3rd heavan, or our universe.
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2 Thes 2:9-Even him (refering to AntiChrist), whose coming is after the working of Satan withall power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, thatthey might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie...
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Along with this passage it is said that one of the AntiChrists first miracles to attempt to persuade the people of his power will be to call fire from the sky. This could be taken several ways since Revelation is highly symbolic, but it COULD represent the AntiChrist(who IS satan) calling HIS fallen angels(the aliens) out and into the open. Imagine if Hitler at the height of his power had called down a fleet of millions of aliens complete with UFOs. What if he claimed to have direct relations with them and said that together with these aliens the human race would go into the future. More than likely MANY people, even non-Nazis, would follow Hitler like a god. This I beleive is just what the AC will do.
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We wrestle not with flesh and blood, but with principalities and powers, with wicked spirits in high places, literally, "in the heavens" "in the aerial regions" Eph.6:12
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Luke 21...and there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth will be anxiety of nations with bewilderment, of sound, of sea and of surf, men fainting at heart from fear and expecting of the things which are coming on the earth. For the powers, the dominions of the heavens will be shaken.
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Also notice the description of a huge army led by Satan in Revelation 9. It says that this army were like locusts with the face of men. Imagine for a second what a locust head with a humanoid face on it would look like...
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"God promised that a descendant of Eve's would crush satan(a foreshadow of Jesus). Now if you were Satan, and you wanted to prevent this, what would you do?
Hmmm...
Pollute the bloodline, perhaps?
"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days - and also afterward - when the sons of God(those God had created, the fallen angels here) went to the daughters of men and had children by them'So the Lord said, I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth ... for I am grieved that I have made them.' But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord." Genesis 6:4-8
"Noah was the only one who had not been affected by the apparent sexual and genetic experiments carried out by these fallen angels. ALSO, in the New Testament it says that "AS in the days of NOAH, so to shall the coming of the son of man(Jesus' 2nd Coming) be."
Excerpted from "Come Sail Away" by Guy Malone http://www.AlienResistance.org Roswell NM
The scripture above tells a part of what it was like in the days of Noah. Notice too that the whole alien abduction frenzy didn't start until the late 1940's, when Israel became a nation. Israel becoming a nation is the single most significant prophecy that has been fuflfilled. For thousands of years there was no Israel. Then in the late 40's Israel became a nation.
ALSO: PER CAPITA the country with the most abduction accounts is Israel. The US has the most, but per capita its Israel. That is significant.
99.9% of people in the world beleive that these "things" are aliens from another planet, that is IF they even beleive in them. A VERY few think that they are actually the fallen angels of the Bible. The AntiChrist would have an easy time convincing people of his authority if he were to call down fleets of UFO's from the sky.
The fact that most people beleive they are aliens and not fallen angels would present the AntiChrist with an incredible oppourtunity to deceive.
Given the evidence above, I would like to know what you all think now. And really consider it...
-Sean Cannon
Here's something written by Jim Gregg in response to this article-
Indeed, the fallen angels are quite busy trying to undermine God's creation. Originally, all angels were created by God to carry out the specifics of terra-forming all those planets that were and will be inhabited in the future. Angels are not married, nor are they given in marriage. So, angels are created without all the aggressions we have (They don't need all those troublesome hormones we have). We were created a little lower than the angels, it says. They all have their specific areas of purpose. some will handle the garden while others will attend to the development and placement of humankind on inhabitable planets. But, all those angels (who remained with God) continue happily to obey God. Satan is the author of the flying saucer. They must sit back and laugh at the mysticism that humans stir up among themselves. There is, without a doubt, life like we humans abounding in the universe. Scientists would be surprised at the commonality of life.....But they would be mostly amazed at the quantity of it. The fact that other planets are inhabited does not disprove God...It proves it all the more. God continues this very minute to create new planets, to harvest those that are ready to be harvested....and most amazingly to me provides the way to salvage all his creation back to himself. It's true about Jesus. He and He alone is the key to our salvation. It's the same every where in the universe. But be careful to put things into perspective....God calls us sheep. We have our puspose in creation also. We can understand all mysteries and have knowledge of all that is contained in creation and know the purpose of it all....But without love the Bible says that we are like a clanging symbol. Our ultimate purpose is to obey God....and that's the undebateable, indisputeable truth.>/P>
Thanks, Jim Gregg.
Ho hum. The “rabid clique” slur again. Wish I had a nickel for every time that’s popped up in one of your posts to me.
I’m just waiting for the idol worshiping junk.
God would most plausibly insure that there were HIS KIDS WARNING AGAINST SUCH HORRIFIC CRITTERS AND THEIR DECEPTION.
And, a small minority of us try to faithfully do so . . .
I think
Guy Malone and
and
http://www.alienresistance.org
is top flight.
INDEED.
That’s not much of an answer. How much of post 393 do you agree with?
Care to share the document you shared with Quix with the rest of us?
People will not be saved by the knowledge that ETs are demonic, if such turns out to be the case. People will be protected from them ONLY by the Blood of Christ! Demon ETs pose no more risk to the SAVED soul that plain old ordinary run of the mill demons. The point I am trying to make is that calling ones attention to the dangers is not even slightly effective. Providing the Shield and the Cure is the only way to save souls. Under that Divine Protection, it makes no difference in what form the danger appears. Given that as fact we can agree upon, wouldn't it make more sense just to spend one's time just witnessing for Jesus and seeding the Holy Spirit? God will protect us from anything evil, even if it is invisible and totally unknown to us. So, skip the details and pass out the Ammunition!
Tactically speaking, Satan can turn any situation to his own favor merely using the unknown, even it that unknown is itself relatively harmless. Case in point: You spend a lot of time with this when you could be spending an equal amount of energy with plain old evangelism. How are you so sure that Satan hasn't turned you from the mission that Christ commanded us to perform through this ET sideshow? After all, you are guaranteed to have the direct help of the Holy Spirit whenever you speak of Salvation through Grace in Christ. The Bible makes no such guarantees for any other endeavor.
From this, I view the ET situation to be merely interesting. I would be stunned if you tell me that I did't communicate at least this time.
Of course, I understand that the pre-Lutheran Catholics were'nt really happy with this Salvation through Grace stuff. One had to gain entry into heaven through the priests, assuming the proper level of payola. Has the Catholic Church maintained this gem of doctrinal stability through the centuries?
NO, has nothing to do with ignoring any of my communications but utterly twisting my statements outrageously out of whack.
I almost have wondered if you were an ESL person but don’t believe you are. It is a bit mystifying as to what happens. Kind of like some sort of intellectual disconnect . . . followed by incredible non-sequiturs.
I’ve shared enough about the Wisc thing. It’s ancient history now and rightfully left to rest there. I just shared it to note that I have some experience with Lutheran theologian types at higher levels in such denominations and they didn’t intimidate me. They ended up the ones struggling to keep up though they’d have been loathe to admit it.
More importantly, GOD CONFIRMED my ministry in that whole situation in layers of ways, multiple ways, in multiple lives benefitting multiple minstered to native peoples over 2-3 countries. And one missionary family was rescued from being on the brink of even abandoning their Christianity.
All of which is just a reply to your trying to send me to your Lutheran theologians. They don’t have anything I want or need.
How about that? I was thinking the same about you! It seems that we are finally communicating! ;-D
That is precisely how I assess your relevance to me..
BTW, I know what it's like, first hand, to have a spirit durn near obliterated, shredded, annihilated, hung out to dry, dis-affirmed relentlessly by a mother, father and a step-father. No fun, at all.
Those Wisconsin Synod blokes are not "mine". You probably don't understand the differences between these denominations that happen to have the name "Luther" in common.
I send you to visit the troops and you run over Cub Scouts with a dump truck.
I don’t know of a
SINGLE
authentic Christian-in-a-true-Salvation-RELATIONSHIP-WITH-JESUS
RESEARCHER
of any substance and significance AT ALL
who agrees with you.
Actually, I don’t know of any authentic Christian research who agrees with you.
NONE.
There are some new age folks heavily into the Occult who might claim they are Christians by virtue of being UNITARIAN . . . who might mostly agree with you . . . but they usually are in communication with demons. I wouldn’t think you’d want them on your bench at all.
I'm doing no such thing. I merely explain to you why I don't buy into your views. Maybe you are having trouble expressing your views.
Does anyone else out there think I am distorting Quix's material? I am truthfully responding only in rebuttal.
Recluse?
Are you saying authentic Christian research agrees with your theories and conclusions in post 393?
I’ve responded to that issue more than once.
Guess I should have included a flow chart.
Here it is again.
That fantasy is all sweet and everything.
THE EVIDENCE JUST DOES NOT SUPPORT THAT FANTASY.
EVEN SECULARISTS WHO WORK WITH THEM END UP CALLING THEM SPIRITUAL BEINGS OF AN EVIL SORT.
THEIR BEHAVIORS ARE DEMONIC OCCULT BEHAVIORS . . . NOT NORMAL MORTAL BEHAVIORS.
THEIR GOALS ARE SATANIC GLOBAL GOVERNMENT GOALS.
Sheesh.
Bore a hole and pour it in.
Actually, I’ve hypothesized the same thing based on the scripture
ALL CREATION WAITS GROANING WITH EAGER DESPERATE YEARNING FOR THE MANIFESTATION OF THE SONS OF GOD.
. . . whatever that verse means, it seems to mean that all creation everywhere waits for deliverance from the pollutions of sin and bondages of satan.
It’s impossible
to grow in Jesus, in the fruits of His Spirit without producing fruit.
I am terrible at guessing, no idea.
75%?
But the timeframes are very uncertain.
I can assure you that the LCMS and other denominations do not accept his theory.
You’re not distorting his material. You’re questioning it the way I and others do.
Any questioning of Quix’s out there claims is met with hostility, as if what he’s saying is proven fact and it’s outrageous to disagree with him.
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