Posted on 10/25/2009 5:37:25 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
I think that to completely dismiss the "alien" abductions and UFO sightings is just not very intelligent. The truth is that SOME
THING is doing these things. People have their unborne babies taken with no trace. People awake with peices of symetrical metal under their skin with no visible mark. People have thousands of hours of UFO videos, of which SOME are quite legitimate. There have been millions who have said they've been abducted. I highly doubt that every single one is lying. Even if just 5 people are telling the truth then there IS somthing "out there".
As a Christian I find no evidence in the Bible that God created any other forms of life not on Earth. But then how do you explain the alien phenomenom?
What is it that's abducting people, performing surgical tests, doing genetic testing, etc..? You could say that the gov't has bred hybrid human life forms that do this, but that seems unlikely. Maybe though, Im not throwing that theory away altogether.
I strongly beleive that the Bible is full of explanations as to what these "aliens" really are. The word alien simply means not of this planet. Therefor God is an alien. And so is another creation of his. The only thing he created besides us humans. Angels. Way back in time Lucifer tried to attain God's level of power. He was cast out of heavan along with 1/3 of all the angels(the ones who followed Lucifer). Him and his followers were cast into what the Bible calls the "Third Heavan". The third heavan is simply the universe. Space, the sky around the earth, etc.../
Contrary to most people's beleif, Satan was NOT cast into hell. He was cast into the 3rd heavan. He was also given the title, "Prince of the Power of the Air". The bible says that he and his fallen angels inhabit the 3rd heavan, or our universe.
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2 Thes 2:9-Even him (refering to AntiChrist), whose coming is after the working of Satan withall power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, thatthey might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie...
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Along with this passage it is said that one of the AntiChrists first miracles to attempt to persuade the people of his power will be to call fire from the sky. This could be taken several ways since Revelation is highly symbolic, but it COULD represent the AntiChrist(who IS satan) calling HIS fallen angels(the aliens) out and into the open. Imagine if Hitler at the height of his power had called down a fleet of millions of aliens complete with UFOs. What if he claimed to have direct relations with them and said that together with these aliens the human race would go into the future. More than likely MANY people, even non-Nazis, would follow Hitler like a god. This I beleive is just what the AC will do.
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We wrestle not with flesh and blood, but with principalities and powers, with wicked spirits in high places, literally, "in the heavens" "in the aerial regions" Eph.6:12
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Luke 21...and there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth will be anxiety of nations with bewilderment, of sound, of sea and of surf, men fainting at heart from fear and expecting of the things which are coming on the earth. For the powers, the dominions of the heavens will be shaken.
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Also notice the description of a huge army led by Satan in Revelation 9. It says that this army were like locusts with the face of men. Imagine for a second what a locust head with a humanoid face on it would look like...
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"God promised that a descendant of Eve's would crush satan(a foreshadow of Jesus). Now if you were Satan, and you wanted to prevent this, what would you do?
Hmmm...
Pollute the bloodline, perhaps?
"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days - and also afterward - when the sons of God(those God had created, the fallen angels here) went to the daughters of men and had children by them'So the Lord said, I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth ... for I am grieved that I have made them.' But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord." Genesis 6:4-8
"Noah was the only one who had not been affected by the apparent sexual and genetic experiments carried out by these fallen angels. ALSO, in the New Testament it says that "AS in the days of NOAH, so to shall the coming of the son of man(Jesus' 2nd Coming) be."
Excerpted from "Come Sail Away" by Guy Malone http://www.AlienResistance.org Roswell NM
The scripture above tells a part of what it was like in the days of Noah. Notice too that the whole alien abduction frenzy didn't start until the late 1940's, when Israel became a nation. Israel becoming a nation is the single most significant prophecy that has been fuflfilled. For thousands of years there was no Israel. Then in the late 40's Israel became a nation.
ALSO: PER CAPITA the country with the most abduction accounts is Israel. The US has the most, but per capita its Israel. That is significant.
99.9% of people in the world beleive that these "things" are aliens from another planet, that is IF they even beleive in them. A VERY few think that they are actually the fallen angels of the Bible. The AntiChrist would have an easy time convincing people of his authority if he were to call down fleets of UFO's from the sky.
The fact that most people beleive they are aliens and not fallen angels would present the AntiChrist with an incredible oppourtunity to deceive.
Given the evidence above, I would like to know what you all think now. And really consider it...
-Sean Cannon
Here's something written by Jim Gregg in response to this article-
Indeed, the fallen angels are quite busy trying to undermine God's creation. Originally, all angels were created by God to carry out the specifics of terra-forming all those planets that were and will be inhabited in the future. Angels are not married, nor are they given in marriage. So, angels are created without all the aggressions we have (They don't need all those troublesome hormones we have). We were created a little lower than the angels, it says. They all have their specific areas of purpose. some will handle the garden while others will attend to the development and placement of humankind on inhabitable planets. But, all those angels (who remained with God) continue happily to obey God. Satan is the author of the flying saucer. They must sit back and laugh at the mysticism that humans stir up among themselves. There is, without a doubt, life like we humans abounding in the universe. Scientists would be surprised at the commonality of life.....But they would be mostly amazed at the quantity of it. The fact that other planets are inhabited does not disprove God...It proves it all the more. God continues this very minute to create new planets, to harvest those that are ready to be harvested....and most amazingly to me provides the way to salvage all his creation back to himself. It's true about Jesus. He and He alone is the key to our salvation. It's the same every where in the universe. But be careful to put things into perspective....God calls us sheep. We have our puspose in creation also. We can understand all mysteries and have knowledge of all that is contained in creation and know the purpose of it all....But without love the Bible says that we are like a clanging symbol. Our ultimate purpose is to obey God....and that's the undebateable, indisputeable truth.>/P>
Thanks, Jim Gregg.
Sadly, These threads tend to attract cliques of SLASH AND BURN MENTALITY . . .
‘only their constructions on reality are remotely correct or whatever . . . ‘
Trouble is, they are usually the MOST clueless & ignorant of all the clueless idiots.
Mine is ‘Til We Have Faces
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Till_We_Have_Faces
How can the gods meet us face to face till we have faces?
The book brings tears to my eyes
and I'm a guy...
Certainly a great one.
I haven’t read it. Must do.
See my FReepmail to you, please. And thanks.
Genesis 6 is not clear. It certainly does not provide sufficient information to reach the conclusions you and the author of that study postulate.
Genesis 6 appears to suggest that God is mortal, and perfectly capable of interbreeding with humans. It said, "The sons of God looked upon the daughters of man...". It did not say, "The fallen ones looked upon...".
I just don't see how you are authorized to interpret the "sons of God" as loosly as you choose. That goes the same for all of the other Scripture you choose to very loosly interpret.
Your assumptions are more than a bit flawed.
The panel of scholars presented more than . . . IIRC . . . 6 hours of testimony.
They went extensively into root word meanings, cultural contexts, etc. etc. etc. etc.
I still have the DVD’s. I may watch them again and take notes.
Suffice it to say, when they were done, that explanation made the most sense.
They did present all the perspectives.
I think I have a tighter interpretation-of-Scripture habit than most folks on FR’s rel forum.
We've been through this before. I have never asked for your help in interprting the Bible or the evidence. The accounts of ETs doing nasty things are not any worse than humans doing nasty things. The ETs just have the advantage of higher technology.
One must use the Bible with extreme reach in language to develop an ET/Universe interpretation. Furthermore, the Bible was placed in service back when mankind wouldn't believe there could be airplanes, radios, computers, or any such technology. They certainly wouldn't believe that the pinpricks in the night sky were distant suns. Finally, the entire purpose of the Bible is to lead mankind to God through Christ. It is not the operator's guide to the universe.
I make a habit to stay off of these threads because everyone insists that I believe what they believe, how they believe it. I plow my own course, and am convinced this is terribly unimportant to boot.
There are multiple Chistian denominations because....?
We don't believe what the other "scholars" believe. That is that.
Cheers.
Yes, they could be (Angels)
His DVD's told him how to interpret Scripture. Us Christians choose to believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, and Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord, but Quix is searching about for demonic entities so he can warn the rest of us.
*sigh*
So did David Koresh.
Reading the various arguments and forming an opinion is not a loose interpretation IMO. In fact, the Sons of Seth view has been roundly dismissed as "reaching" by those who want to ignore the pseudepigraphic Book of Enoch (fragments of which were part of the Dead Sea Scrolls).
My father was a Missouri Synod Lutheran Pastor. Those bloks do some serious study in the seminary, including learning to read in Hebrew, Latin, and Greek. The official stance of the LCMS seems to be: spend time working the Great Commission as directed by Christ, not on determining how mamy angels can dance of the head of a pin.
If, as some believe, the earth is a battle ground between the forces of Good and evil, I would think it would behoove us (some of us at least) to dig as deeply as possible into God's Word so as to glean as much meaning from it as possible.
Not every one is called to preach. God calls his people to many professions...some are called to study and others are called to watch.
BTW, many thanks and kudos to you Dad for his life's work in spreading the Word of the Lord.;-)
You miss the essential point. Nobody is at risk from any evil while under the protection of Christ. It is imperative to spend the time winning souls for Christ rather than wasting that time worrying about needless details regarding what you are already shielded against. Christ did not ask us to worry about the nature of things that go bump in the night. He commanded us to attempt to get His shield around others.
Oh, WELL SAID!!!
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