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Vatican Backs Obama's Global Agenda
ChristianWorldviewNetwork.com ^ | October 13, 2009 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 10/13/2009 12:56:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor

Liberal and conservative Catholics alike would prefer not to discuss how the Catholic Church, here and abroad, functions like a liberal/left-wing political lobby.

Some pro-life Catholics are acting shocked that the Vatican warmly greeted the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to President Obama, who is pro-abortion. They don't seem to understand that the Vatican and Obama agree on most major international issues.

This is the untold story-how Obama and the Vatican accept major ingredients of what has been called a New World Order.

Another untold story is how, despite a disagreement over abortion, the U.S. Catholic Bishops and the Obama Administration agree on major aspects of so-called health care reform.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldviewtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhovatican; bravosierra; catholic; globalism; newworldorder; nobelprize; obamacare; religiousleft; vatican; vaticanliberalism
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To: Quix
Repost complies with four hour guideline.
61 posted on 10/13/2009 2:09:22 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: IbJensen
Have you read the 144-page document?

Yes.

I'm also aware what many paranoid anti-Catholic bigots have tried to do with it.

62 posted on 10/13/2009 2:09:32 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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63 posted on 10/13/2009 2:11:04 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: IbJensen
Did you actually read* Caritas In Veritate; released on 29 June 2009, or are you just regurgitating what you heard on CNN?

*That is a rhetorical question since the encyclical would sail too far over your grape for you to comprehend it.

64 posted on 10/13/2009 2:14:35 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Natural Law
It appears that a major proportion of the naysayers need some ENGLISH REFRESHER LESSONS:

“personal”

IS NOT REALLY that difficult a concept.

It comes from the word “person.”

A “PERSON” is

DIFFERENT from

1. A GROUP
2. THEY
3. Y’ALL
4. THEM
5. SOME OF THEM
6. CADRE
7. A COLLECTION OF

WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM [i.e. NOT the SAME as]:

A “PERSON” IS directly associated with

1. YOU
2. HE
3. SHE

I realize that the more chronic naysayers tend to have a dreadfully difficult time distinguishing between

DIFFERENT

VS

SAME

but it does make it a lot easier when some of them try.

AND, I realize that the more chronic naysayers have this THING about

OBSESSIVE, ADDICTIVE EXTRAPOLATING, ASSUMING, INFERRING . . .

however, as I understand things . . .

EXTRAPOLATING, ASSUMING, INFERRING . . . THAT A personal insult, attack has occurred . . .

[accurately or not]

. . . INFERRING, EXTRAPOLATING
A PERSONAL “INSULT” DOES NOT COUNT.

The rules have to do with plainly written PERSONAL insult.

We will return screens to regularly scheduled programming after the following freebie additional refresher lesson:

This English Comprehension lesson has concluded.

DISTINCTIONS REALLY ARE IMPORTANT.

DISTINGUISHING

THE DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN

THE CHURCH AGE

VS THE MILLENNIAL AGE

IS IMPORTANT IN SCRIPTURE. It could rationally be considered important in life.

DISTINGUISHING

THE DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN

AN INDIVIDUAL

VS

A GROUP

IS IMPORTANT.

DISTINGUISHING

THE DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN

calling even a group idiotic vs a belief, perspective, idea, doctrine idiotic

IS IMPORTANT.

I’m beginning to wonder if it’s something in the holy water that REPLACEMENTARIAN, preterist, amil’s might drink that renders them incapable of making important distinctions.

Of course, the awake, aware and alert need no such lessons and the otherwise will not heed them but . . . just for the record, there they are! LOL.

65 posted on 10/13/2009 2:16:06 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: IbJensen

Some folks

fling epithets at folks not their identical twins

with about the same frequency as their breathing.


66 posted on 10/13/2009 2:17:15 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: editor-surveyor
It's time to admit that some people are search engine challenged.
67 posted on 10/13/2009 2:18:51 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Petronski
YEAH, taking it at face value and it's words at their normal definitions is

SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCHHHHHHHHHHH A MORTAL SIN!

LOL.

/sar


68 posted on 10/13/2009 2:20:14 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Are you calling me a naysayer (personal) or simply reading minds?


69 posted on 10/13/2009 2:21:24 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Campion

Naw . . .

just articulating the usual list of self-evident to obvious facts is quite sufficient, usually.

There’s plenty of fodder for that.


70 posted on 10/13/2009 2:22:34 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Your particular judgment is going to be a real hoot, for the audience.


71 posted on 10/13/2009 2:23:10 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Natural Law

Neither.

I’m providing some background information for lurkers to make their own determinations.

I guess I should have included the RM’s bit about those with thin skins should steer clear of open threads.


72 posted on 10/13/2009 2:24:22 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
YEAH, taking it at face value and it's words at their normal definitions is...

Neither a sin nor what you did.

73 posted on 10/13/2009 2:24:55 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I gather some folks are in for some startling surprises on that score.

But that’s got to be a grant example of rule violation.


74 posted on 10/13/2009 2:25:25 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

What’s that Lassie? There’s been an explosion down at the Hanna-Barbera font factory? Timmy fell down a well?

I’ll go get help!


75 posted on 10/13/2009 2:26:14 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski
Remarks which are posted in large, multicoloured fonts and gratuitously accompanied by irrelevant graphics are almost always of nearly zero value.

If the author had anything worthwhile to say, he wouldn't have to make heavy use of attention-grabbers.

76 posted on 10/13/2009 2:30:17 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; airborne; Amityschild; AngieGal; auggy; autumnraine; bearsgirl90; bethtopaz; ...

It’s always fascinating . . .

as a psychologist and sociologist . . .

to observe folks who’s identity is so ENMESHED . . . to use a technical term . . .

soooooooooooooooo ENMESHED with an organization . . .

as to be INCAPABLE of distinguishing between

their person-hood and the organization . . .

between SAME vs DIFFERENT

between me vs other

between group vs me

between an insitution vs its members

between the garden and a single rose

between a symphony and a single note

My experience would suggest that folks who have a significant degree of ATTACHMENT problems the first 6-8 years of life . . . grow up with such serious self-worth, insecurity etc. deficits that this

ENMESHMENT—OVERWHELMING IDENTIFICATION with the INSTITUTION, GROUP such that there’s no clear BOUNDARIES where the INSTITUTIION starts and stops and the individual begins. It’s all an intensely emotionally construed amorphous mass. The Individual is lost in the group in very telling and emphatic ways and degrees.

Sometimes I think the RELIGIOUS rulers 2000 years ago had a bad dose of the same or a similar problem. Their arrogance presumed that THEY WERE THE GROUP—or, at least, such an important part of it that further distinctions were unimportant. Cheek to the max, for sure.

It’s kind of a sort of confabulation.

Seems to me they ought to develop a diagnostic category for that.


77 posted on 10/13/2009 2:34:58 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Disagreeing with Quix is a sign of mental illness, donchaknow.


78 posted on 10/13/2009 2:36:33 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

what a sweet exhortation.


79 posted on 10/13/2009 2:36:38 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Petronski

Goodness no!

Though it does sometimes appear that many cohorts seem to be energetically trying to prove that assertion correct.


80 posted on 10/13/2009 2:38:26 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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