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A Message To Those Who Will Be/Are Left Behind - The Rapture of the Church
The Ignorant Fishermen Blog ^ | 8/13/09 | DJP I.F.

Posted on 10/07/2009 3:25:53 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman

Greetings in the Name of The Lord Jesus Christ! This brief letter is written to those of you who have been left behind. May I calm your great anxiety and fears with this great message of hope! God loves you and cares greatly for you. He has a great plan, purpose and future for you and your life. He wants only and always the highest and best things for you. So please give your ear and full attention to the words that follow. The days ahead will be days that will not be easy - in fact they will be quite horrendous. But be of good cheer and of good courage. Have Faith in Almighty God and His Word.

Jesus said, For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but hath everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved (John 3:16-17).

God so loved us that He sent His Son Jesus Christ to die on the cross for your sins and mine! God has thus provided a way to restore fellowship with sinners (all humans), and to remove His righteous wrath that was upon us because of our sins and trespasses

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To: roamer_1; topcat54; Alex Murphy
TRADITIONS OF MEN.

But that's ridiculous. Sound doctrine is not a "tradition of men." Sound doctrine is demanded by Christ of his followers.

"if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. " -- Matthew 19:17

221 posted on 10/09/2009 4:30:40 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Quix
All the Pentecostal congregations I know of believe in the basic doctrines presented in the creeds.

That's wonderful to hear. Thanks for that information.

222 posted on 10/09/2009 4:45:14 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Certainly. Thanks for your kind reply.


223 posted on 10/09/2009 4:47:25 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Alex Murphy; topcat54

“Vandelay Industries.”


224 posted on 10/09/2009 4:57:01 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: topcat54; Lee N. Field; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD; Alex Murphy
Yes, but not Roman Catholic when properly understood.

Precisely the SAME, and for the same reasons. Admittedly, all the Protestant brands declare their traditions to be subservient to the Bible, which is in their favor, but declaration and practice are two separate things.

Lone Ranger Christians are the ones most likely to get into trouble when it comes to sound doctrine, or lack thereof.

Perhaps, but false doctrine runs rampant throughout - So singling out the "lone ranger" is hardly more than the conclusion of a popularity contest.

The Church (that is, the properly ordained officers of the Church) is the one to exercise the keys of the kingdom, binding and loosing according to the Word of God.

Again, how (Roman) Catholic. It is amazing to me how edifices seek to abscond with what was meant to be a very personal relationship with every individual Christian within the body. THE WHOLE CHURCH, and every member within her has the power each anointed by the SAME SPIRIT. Each member, as a part of the Body of Christ, walks boldly into the Holy of Holies. Doctrines and priesthoods counteract the simple truth and personal relationship that Christ desires with each and every soul.

If you come in to the congregation and declare some fantasy doctrine that you heard on Brother Yahoo’s old time revivalist freewill teetotaler radio program last night, quoting Scripture and all, the officers are free to toss you on your ear when it does not match the gold standard properly interpreted. Clearly, your interpretation is wrong, and God’s human ambassadors are right.

This is the same self-assured piety that stoned the prophets in days of old. God chooses, not man.

Actually, it is. See the previous.

Actually, it isn't. See previous.

That’s your opinion based on your personal interpretation of the Bible. Why should anyone believe it? Who are you?

YOPIOS, delivered in typical Roman Catholic style. One ought to be astonished at the utter hypocrisy.

The Sabbath day was defined at the Creation and was established *FOREVER*. There is no serious theology which can defend a Sunday Sabbath from the Scriptures, because it *isn't there*. The Son would not break the Immortal Word of the Father. He CAN'T, because He IS the Immortal Word of the Father.

Who am I? Just a voice, crying in the electronic wilderness: "THE END IS NEAR!"... Nothing to see here... move along.

And who is Isaac Newtown and why should we listen to him. There were many noble scientists, politicians, etc who made terrible theologians.

Or, more likely, you are severely misreading Newton.

But one won't know that unless one seeks him out... A perilous thing to do, I suppose, for one who believes that all this "futurist nonsense" started in the late 1800's.

He predicted outright that Israel would become a physical nation again, and came pretty close on the conditions and dates surrounding the event. He predicted the rise of Zionism. He predicted Hitler as the "Little Horn"... His views on the Prophecy cannot be easily discounted, even though, as I said, he cannot be fully correct.

I mention him only as a great defender of the Prophecy and of the Word. One who did so at the peril of his life, and as one who's intellect cannot be summarily dismissed. He stands fully, and convincingly, outside of your time-line.

When one has sufficiently satisfied oneself that Newton is as I say, I have more for you. It is a fallacy to say that the true reading of the Prophecy is new. It is Replacement Theology which is new, and it is wrong headed, and stands against the Scriptures.

225 posted on 10/09/2009 6:11:52 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: roamer_1

It is Replacement Theology which is new, and it is wrong headed, and stands against the Scriptures.

= = =

INDEED.

THX.


226 posted on 10/09/2009 6:24:39 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
But that's ridiculous. Sound doctrine is not a "tradition of men." Sound doctrine is demanded by Christ of his followers.

"if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. " -- Matthew 19:17

Hi, Dr. Eck! :)

And What, pray tell, would those "commandments" be?

It is my assertion they would be the commandments of God, as we are reminded to do throughout the New Testament. That is indeed "sound doctrine". But what has it to do with the doctrine of Calvin, or any other man?

227 posted on 10/09/2009 6:25:31 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: Quix
NEWTON knew a thing or two . . . And his Scriptural study far surpassed his time and energy into other matters . . . to good effect, I think.

He was not without his flaws... He was not trinitarian... Railed against it in fact, AFAIR, without denying the deity of the Three. I believe he saw a subordinate structure, where the SON and the Spirit were of, but not equal to the Father. I can also point to passages of his prophetic interpretation which I disagree with too.

But as I said, He is a man. I don't follow any doctrine of men, not to mention the doctrine of Newton. I hold onto what is good, as the Bible says to do...

228 posted on 10/09/2009 7:07:25 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: roamer_1

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


229 posted on 10/09/2009 7:44:29 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Holy Spirit is fiercely protective of HIS EXCLUSIVE TURF regarding each individual alive.

*Zackly*

230 posted on 10/09/2009 8:03:12 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: Marysecretary
I will, but you CAN tell Him yourself, you know...

:O :D ;)

231 posted on 10/09/2009 8:05:52 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


232 posted on 10/09/2009 10:18:37 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: topcat54; Quix; Lee N. Field; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD
When Uncle Martin knocks on your door, give me a call.

What if the source of these UFO's is the same source as the "Marian apparitions"? In both cases they serve to focus people on things other than Jesus.

233 posted on 10/10/2009 7:53:56 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Now now.

Expecting REPLACEMENTARIANS et al

to sensibly assess the evidence and come to a logical conclusion

could be a sign of

. . . an addiction to extreme futility . . .

. . . delusions of grandeur

. . . 100% ignorance about REPLACEMENTARIANS ET AL

. . . early onset of Alzheimer’s.

. . . sleep typing

. . . a very destructive form of ET Vulcan mind meld

&/or

. . . mental collapse from reading too many OThuga award threads.


234 posted on 10/10/2009 8:10:21 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: roamer_1; topcat54; Lee N. Field; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD; Alex Murphy
It is when those in power through history, using that power to label dissenters heretic, and promote a single powerful voice in the Name of God, regardless of it's truth... That is the serious problem. That is the whore of Babylon.

What a wonderful point.

The emergence of a dominant hierarchy in the 300's and the link to the state is also the time Christians began killing Christians for disagreeing. We often think that the Reformation is when this terrible sin ended, but it really wasn't until Christian churches were separated from the state.

235 posted on 10/10/2009 8:19:12 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: topcat54; roamer_1; Lee N. Field; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD; Alex Murphy
The Church (that is, the properly ordained officers of the Church) is the one to exercise the keys of the kingdom, binding and loosing according to the Word of God.

What do you believe the keys of the kingdom" are?

You might also want to read Matt. 18:20 when applying Matt. 18:18.

236 posted on 10/10/2009 8:26:59 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Quix
LOL

to sensibly assess the evidence and come to a logical conclusion

Maybe we get to caught up in trying to "make the other guy look bad", or "discrediting them" to see the forest because of the trees in our way.

I don't believe UFO sightings have anything to do with creatures from other planets coming to study us. If such creatures existed and could travel great distances why would they lack the ability to keep themselves hidden.

If they don't come from other planets then where do they come from and why are they here? I think it's to mislead people into thinking we are all just biological and a part of a vast universe and science has the answer for everything. Now who could want us to deny we are more than biological?

237 posted on 10/10/2009 8:43:49 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights; roamer_1; Lee N. Field; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD; Alex Murphy

The keys of the kingdom represents the power Christ has given to the legitimate leaders of His Church to discipline (binding) and disciple (loosing), all according to the Word of God.

When a person comes into the congregation with a strange teaching that contradicts the Bible, they are not to be tolerated. Conversely, the leaders have the responsibility to faithfully teach all and only what is found in the Word of God. That is their divine authority.

This is why it is important to have a plurality of leaders (elders) in the Church. The decision is never left to any one man. There is wisdom in numbers (Proverbs 11:14; 15:22; 24:6).


238 posted on 10/10/2009 10:14:20 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: wmfights; Lee N. Field; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD
What if the source of these UFO's is the same source as the "Marian apparitions"? In both cases they serve to focus people on things other than Jesus.

You mean like too much partying the night before?

The speculation that all this is demonically inspired is laughable. Demon manifestations in the Bible never followed this track. There is no evidence demons have the power to manipulate the physical world in order to create such phenomena, e.g., UFOs.

If these demons really had the ability to unfocus our thinking away from Jesus, all they have to do is land their spaceship and announce to the world there is no God. Most people are stupid enough to believe them. Case closed.

I think you give demons far more credit than they deserve.

239 posted on 10/10/2009 10:23:45 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: roamer_1; Lee N. Field; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD; Alex Murphy
This is the same self-assured piety that stoned the prophets in days of old. God chooses, not man.

Are you saying there are no heretics? That everyone’s ideas are as good as anyone else’s? That truth is relative?

Or are you saying it is a crap shoot to try and figure out who’s right and who’s wrong?

Or are you saying that God has not given anyone the power to judge in these matters?

Let's cut to the chase here.

240 posted on 10/10/2009 10:28:12 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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