The Dispensational "Parenthesis" Theory Examined

The Seventy Weeks And The Great Tribulation - Chapter 7 ^ | 1921 | Philip Mauro

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Are The Seventy Weeks of Daniel Consecutive?

The idea which we have discussed in our last chapter, namely that Daniel 9:27 refers not to Christ but to antichrist is usually coupled with, another, also of a very radical sort, namely, that the 70th week of Gabriel's prophecy does not come where we would naturally expect to find it, that is, immediately after the 69th week, but that it is detached from the other 69, is separated from them by many centuries, is yet in the future, and will be found at the very end of this present age. The extent to which these ideas have found acceptance in our day makes it a matter of importance to inquire very carefully into the reasons that have been given in support thereof.

We do not know just when or how these ideas sprang up. That is not, of course, a reason for rejecting them; for God is pleased from time to time to give new light from His Word. But it is a reason for subjecting them to a rigid scrutiny. This we have sought to do, and the result is we have come to the conclusion that, not only are they destitute of support in the Word of God, but they are directly contrary thereto. This we shall endeavor to make clear.

[xzins]

“they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”

The canonical books of Flavius Josephus record the fulfillment of that prophecy prior to 70 AD.

Unfortunately, none of the early church had a clue: (1) that it happened, (2) that Josephus was canonical.

[Quix]

THOSE UNRUBBERIZED SCRIPTURES

can be soooooooooooooo pesky

for the rubber minded.

[Quix]

“Parenthesis” can really mess up your tight eschatology almost as bad as
“they shall see"
the Son of man
coming
in the clouds
of heaven
with power
and great glory.”

THAT ONE SENTENCE
!!!!ALONE!!!! [like so many]

UTTERLY SHREDS
the
REPLACEMENTARIAN et al
HOUSE OF
RUBBER CARDS
'THEOLOGY.'

Evidently, most of their minds are Spandex stretched to the depths of and in and out of so many rabbit holes . . . it's hard to get sufficient synapses in the same corner of ONE rabbit hole long enough to come to such a realization.

“they shall see"

NOT 'they shall fantasize.'
RATHER, they shall see
--with open eyes--
AT that future time
TANGIBLY,
NOT ETHERIALLY!
AS THE HOLY ANGELS SAID
AT THE ASCENSION

"IN LIKE MANNER"
to His going away
in the tangible clouds
HE WILL RETURN!

the Son of man

NOT a 3D holographic
HOLLYWEED/FALLEN ANGEL
projected image
NOT a new age
ET cloned imposter
NOT a spiritualized
figment of a 2,000
year old REPLACEMENTARIAN’s
wild haired imagination
!!!!NO!!!!
--INSTEAD--
OUR RISEN LORD!
CHRIST JESUS!
KING OF KINGS
And
LORD OF LORDS
COMING IN
!!!!GREAT!!!!
POWER AND GLORY!
[accept NO substitutes!]

coming

REALLY COMING!
NOT sitting at the
Right Hand of
THE FATHER THEN!
REALLY COMING!
NOT going!
COMING!
COMING AGAIN!
THE RETURN
OF
!!!!THE!!!!
!!!!KING!!!!

in the clouds

Hmmmmm
IN the visible
Tangible
CLOUDS
IN THE AIR
IN LIKE MANNER
As He was seen
To go away!
NOT in a helicopter!
NOT on a huge eagle!
IN CLOUDS!

of heaven

As He went away,
They were left staring
at EMPTY SKY.
THAT
Layer of ‘heaven.’

with power

!!!!NOT!!!!
a laser light show!
!!!!NOT!!!!
A wave-length/
Scalar wave projection
A la mass mind control
Into viewers brains
By technology!
!!!!NOT!!!!
A New Age
Demonically orchestrated
MASS DELUSION FROM HELL

!!!!NOT!!!!
Some Goa’uld projection
From a System Lord
Ha’tak pyramid mothership!
!!!!!!!NO!!!!!!!
!THE REAL DEAL!
!!!!!NOT!!!!!
With borrowed
power!
HIS OWN
CREATE-ALL-THAT-IS-
LEVEL of HIS
PERSONAL KING OF KINGS
AND LORD OF LORDS POWER!

and GREAT GLORY.”

!!!!!!!NOT!!!!!!!
Some rationalized,
Neuterized,
Homogenized,
Sanitized,
Spiritualized,
REPLACEMENTARIAN,
!!!!!FICTION!!!!!
THE VERY TANGIBLY REAL
RETURN OF THE VERY
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS
TO OUR ERA,
TO EARTH,
TO US!
We have been born for
SUCH A TIME AS THIS!
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD!
BLESSED BE THE WORD OF THE LORD!
BLESSED BE THE WAYS OF THE LORD!
BLESSED BE THE WILL OF THE LORD!

[Quix]

Is there no talk of the Jihadi’s assertion that they will attack Germany some Sunday in Oct?

[Quix]

Unfortunately, none of the early church had a clue: (1) that it happened, (2) that Josephus was canonical.

!!!!GREAT RESPONSE!!!!
though most
REPLACEMENTARIANS et al
seem to be a rather
humorless lot.
EVEN THEIR 'HUMOR'
is a 'COLD PRICKLY!'

CHEERS!

[Lee N. Field]

I’m not a Calvinist.

yet.

[Lee N. Field]

a rather humorless lot.

If one's idea of humor is pratfalls and grade school poop jokes, it may appear so.

[topcat54]

You said RUBBER …. The Quixomatic RUBBER Meter® is at 3 for the day.

Contestant Q

Thank you for playing. A new game will begin tomorrow.

[topcat54]

Let’s see now, if Messiah is cut off in the middle of the 70th “heptad” (30 A.D.) and Jerusalem is destroyed sometime during the 70th “heptad” (70 A.D.) that would mean that this writer’s “heptad” has an unaccounted for gap or it means anything he wants it to mean or its Daniel’s fault.

You need to read more carefully, my FRiend. Nowhere does it say that Jerusalem is destroyed within the timeframe of the 70th “heptad”.

[guitarplayer1953]

[guitarplayer1953]

Is the seventh week whole or split in two halves? Did Christ fulfill the first 69 1/2 weeks and 1/2 week is left?

[blue-duncan]

"You need to read more carefully, my FRiend. Nowhere does it say that Jerusalem is destroyed within the timeframe of the 70th “heptad”."

He says it plainly in the polemic and he recognizes he has a problem and blames it on Daniel.

"Therefore, all the facts and reasons we have given in proof that verse 27 speaks of Christ, and all the facts and reasons given to show that the prince that is to come of verse 26 was Titus, avail equally to prove that the 70th week joined directly to the 69th. And conversely, all the facts and reasons we are now about to set forth in proof that the 70th week was indeed one of the "seventy," and not a detached and remote period, avail equally to prove that verse 27 refers to Christ."

"We would point out to begin with that the words "Seventy weeks are determined," etc., are words of clear and certain meaning. They are just the words which would be used by one who wished to be understood as saying that, within the measure of 70 weeks, the six things specified in Daniel 9:24 would happen."

"On the other hand, the Word of God makes it quite plain, as we hope to show later on, that the "abomination, which was to make the city and sanctuary a "desolation, was the army of Titus, "the people of the prince that shall come."

"And we do know, both by the words of the prophecy, and also by the information given in the Gospel according to John, that Christ was crucified within the "week" (seven years) following His anointing and manifestation to Israel. We know, in other words, that he was "cut off" in the seventieth week counting in the ordinary way from the given starting point. And this would be true regardless of what decree be taken as that starting point. This double witness, that of the prophecy itself and that of the Gospel-records, puts the matter beyond all doubt. By means thereof we know to a certainty that none of the six great things foretold in verse 24 happened within the sixty- nine weeks, but that each and all of them came to pass within the week which came next thereafter, that is to say in the seventieth consecutive week from the starting point. Nothing could be better established upon clear scriptural evidence than this."

"The words "for the overspreading of abominations" are very obscure, and many suggestions as to their meaning have been offered. We shall not discuss these, for the reason that the Septuagint translation gives a clear rendering, and our Lord's adoption of it puts the authoritative stamp of His approval upon it. According to that version "the abomination of desolation" was to be upon (or to come against) the temple, that is, for its destruction. In other words there was to come an agency or force (which God terms an "abomination", which was to make the place a "desolation."

"The Lord Jesus Christ used the same expression when, in warning His disciples of the approaching destruction of Jerusalem by the armies of Titus, He said: "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (whoso readeth, let him understand), then let them which be in Judea flee into the mountain ," etc,

"But if, on the other hand, we take the. prophecy as it is given, that is to say, in heptads, not years, then it will be clearly seen that all the seventy heptads are accounted for. For our exposition simply follows the terms of the prophecy, which are quite plain, and which locate certain events "in the midst of" the last heptad, but do not locate any events at the end thereof. If, therefore, any part of the determined period is unaccounted for, it is the prophecy itself, and not this writer's exposition thereof, that is chargeable."

From the above, "Let’s see now, if Messiah is cut off in the middle of the 70th “heptad” (30 A.D.) and Jerusalem is destroyed sometime during the 70th “heptad” (70 A.D.) that would mean that this writer’s “heptad” has an unaccounted for gap or it means anything he wants it to mean or its Daniel’s fault."

This polemic is kind of like a variation on the old joke about the man who asks a woman if she would have sex with him for a million dollars?

Here it is would Philip Mauro accept a parenthesis of 40 years to which he answers yes in his polemic.

So then would he accept a parenthesis of 2,000 years to which he indignantly replies, "what kind of a bible teacher do you think I am?"

To which the reply “We’ve already established that. Now we’re just haggling about the size of the parenthesis.”

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Let's finish the quote, my FRiend.

"But the fact is that the prophecy accounts first for sixty-nine heptads (which reached "unto the Messiah") and then it accounts specifically for the one remaining heptad, and for the whole of it, by telling what was to happen in the midst thereof. Thus the prophecy (and the exposition which simply follows it) leaves no part of [the] prophetic period unaccounted for."

The author does not claim anything is wrong with the prophecy itself, but all was fulfilled. Your analysis is that which is in error.

Selective reading is futurism's trouble in the first place.

[blue-duncan]

“The author does not claim anything is wrong with the prophecy itself, but all was fulfilled. Your analysis is that which is in error.”

He claims the heptads are 7 years. He claims the crucifixion occured in the middle of the 7th heptad and the abomonation which he describes as the destruction of the temple occured in the 7th heptad.

That is a 40 year gap that haunts all of the preterist forcing of Daniel 9 and he recognizes it or he would not have blamed his problem on Daniel.

[topcat54]

The author explains quite well how all the events listed fall within the last seven.

The difficulties are inconsequential compared the leap of faith required by the futurist gap theory.

As he said, "The alteration of God's measuring line whereof we are speaking has been effected by the strange expedient of inserting many centuries of time (more than nineteen hundred years thus far) between the sixty-ninth and the seventieth week. And the result is that, instead of a definite and "determined" measuring line of 490 years, we have one which already is over 2400 years in length, and is growing longer every day."

[topcat54]

It’s all been fulfilled. None is left.

[guitarplayer1953]

then all of Daniel has been fulfilled along with Revelations too?

[guitarplayer1953]

"abomination that causes desolation"

the abomination was the continuance of the daily sacrifice that God ended with Jesus and it took forty years before God destroyed the whole show temple and all.

[xzins]

the abomination was the continuance of the daily sacrifice that God ended with Jesus and it took forty years before God destroyed the whole show temple and all.

I wouldn't be inclined to accept the interpretation that the Temple sacrificial system would be the abomination of desolation.

1. Paul declared the law to be good and holy.

2. Paul and the early church regularly engaged in Temple ritual after the resurrection.

3. Those sacrifices were a picture of the one sacrifice, so they are recommended by Hebrews to be reflected upon in a holy manner.

[Gamecock]

Sacrifices pointed forward to Christ.

Once he was sacrificed all other sacrifices became pagan.