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To: ColdSteelTalon

What? The NIV and NASB give us the famous John 1:1-14 passage that Jesus IS God. Show me how they deny that Jesus is the Son of God please. Or that these translations deny salvation by faith alone in Jesus. I didn’t realize that the Pauline Epistles were removed (is Ephesians not found in the NIV?). Or that John 3:16 was re-written. Matthew 3:16 reads, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.” in the NIV.

Those are ad-hominem attacks that you lay out, they bear nothing on the actual translations themselves. There is no single doctrine that is distorted or removed in NIV or NASB (my favorite translation) that is in the KJV.

The only major thing that is removed is the 1 John passage that has the doctrine of the Trinity spelled out unambiguously (”and these three are one”). However there is a footnote in all version of the NIV or NASB that tell us that this is not found in the oldest and best manuscripts.

All of that said, I like the KJV of the Bible. It reads like poetry in lots of areas. But, for modern audiences it can be a little hard to understand. But there is the NKJV which uses the same source manuscripts as the KJV if you want a more modern translation.


36 posted on 09/22/2009 7:07:04 AM PDT by rom (Israel got Saul before they got David. Where's our David?)
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To: rom

I have spent awhile reading all the posts on the Joseph Smith Papers and was a bit let down by the type of comments made back and forth. A friend of mine just recently commented that someone from the political far right will look with skepticism and really not listen to the words of someone from the left no matter his or her position in the world and vise versa. The Nazis during WW II used propaganda to make a caricature of the Jewish people so no one would feel they were actually human and of worth so they could say and do anything to them. Protestants in all of their diverse denominations, Catholics, Greek orthodox, Mormons, and all non Christians are not caricatures of anything. Their beliefs are rich and diverse. They are worthy of understanding and the freedom from our ignorance of their true beliefs and practices. “Mircea Eliade, a historian of religions, has argued,’There is, indeed, only one way of understanding a cultural phenomenon which is alien to one’s own ideological pattern, and that is to place oneself at its very center and from there to track down all the values that radiate from it... Before we proceed to judge it we must fully understand it and become imbued, as it were, with its ideology, whatever form it may take- myth, symbol, rite, social attitude’.”

I might be wrong, but it seemed that most of the persons responding claimed some christian background in their lives. What does this mean; “By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.” John 13:35. I found very little of this love that Christ talked about as uninformed caricatures were used to make hurtful and malicious comments about someone’s faith.

The tone I might add,in some of the responses sounded very near to the type of comments that might have been found in the early 1900’s in the southern part of the united states about black people.

by the way this post is not to you in particular but to all the persons who posted.


37 posted on 09/24/2009 9:04:42 PM PDT by david52
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