Posted on 09/20/2009 10:37:51 AM PDT by NYer
From a September 2006 article featured on the Our Sunday Visitor website:
Sandra, by the way, has already finished reading Dan Brown's The Lost Symbol (I'm on page 30 and don't know if I have the strength to continue). I spoke to her yesterday shortly after she had reached the underwhelming conclusion of the novel, and she noted it was a sort of "love poem" to Masonry, with occasional swipes at Christianity. And today she wrote: "I finished THE LOST SYMBOL, which is a tad better than DA VINCI CODE despite being rah rah pro-Masonic propaganda.By no means is it a 'good' book, even for popcorn reading." She is working on a piece about the novel, the Masons, and other esoteric topics for Catholic World Report (so subscribe now!).
For a more detailed examination of the Masons, consider Christianity And American Freemasonry, by William J. Whalen:
Nope, and if becoming one involves taking an oath on the koran as I’ve been told today, I never will be.
They probably wouldn’t unless you wore the funny apron to church.
I agree!
Amen.
:)
you’re partially correct, it was amont the intelligensia that the “reformation” took place...it was these “educated” people who decided that they were far too sophisticated to be controlled by the church. Henry VIII pretty much said that if he couldn’t have a divorce, and remarry within the church, he’d start his own church and change the rules. By the was, protestants disagree with Catholocism on, probably the most central of teachings, that is transubstantion...Catholics believe that the Eucharist is the true Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ.....no symbolysm, TRUE CHANGE IN THE BREAD AND WINE INTO CHRIST IN PERSON..kind of a fundamental difference I’d say.......in fact all of Christianity believed that until we were “enlightened “ by Luther et al..pathetic
At the very minimum Christians are admonished not to let their light “be hid under a bushel basket”...Masonry detracts from that admonishment.
Christians are told to openly make manifest their light and “to not hide their light under a bushel” The very secrecy of Masonry detracts from open Christian witness!
The goal of Christ was that the light of his followers “not be hid” as “under a bushel”. Secret organizations such as Masonry detract from the open transparency Christ wants his children to display to the world. If Free Masonry was really as benign in its over all outlook as Christianity, why the inscrutibility?
LOL.....!My objection to Masonry has to do with transparency...Christians are admonished by Christ not to “hide their Light as under a bushel”.
I would say as a protestant, I find the aims of Masonry to be generally anti Christian...whether one was Catholic or Protestant in worship of that same Christ. I do note that the US branches of Free Masonry are indeed as you state, more of a “social club”, raise money for causes type organizations...though many have suspected that the baseline members (who may be quite Godly and benign of character) are the sap money raiser types, collecting money for the higher up level groups that do use the money for much more darker purposes.
I think you’re right. I don’t think faithful Protestants can be Masons, either, although many people in the US probably don’t take its beliefs seriously and regard it as a bit of harmless play-acting for grown men. But there is a definite question about where the money goes and what it is used for.
We couldn't handle the corruption of the Word and the Roman Catholic Church.
Christianity is a state of the heart, inspired by the Word of God. Catholicism, like all other churches, is a creation of man.
Christ inspired the original church, but it became perverted to trappings and the wealth it could acquire on the backs of the superstitions of the poor faithful. When I visited Mexico, I saw the travesty that the Roman Catholic Church became!
Really? It is apparent your opinion or who ever brainwashed your illogical thinking needs to obtain a second opinion from a real doctor of the truth.
It is apparent you are not a member, remember only a madmen, athiest or fool can never enter the masonic fraternity. Which category do you correlate with in exemption.
Presidents, George Washington, Truman, General Douglas Mac Arthur,and many other good & decent God believing men were/are masons.
Your fiction as opposed to fact is without any preponderance of evidence of what you purport. “Please just keep on supporting your idol Obammy and leave freemasonry alone.”
I am an American Patriot who loves God and Country, so take a hike out of America if you have a problem with catholics being masons.
The Worm Has Turned,
NSNR
Substitute Protestant for the term “Bereans” and study who they were...they were Sola Scripturists in PRACTISE who subjected every teaching and doctrine to the WORD to see if they be true!...Well guess what the early Protestants did?
Yeah, and it’s true that a few made some grievous mistakes as some of their views didn’t hold up to scripture either...like Luther’s later stated antipathy towards Jews. Church history is full of great leaders who at times fell prone to error. Even Moses struck the rock out of anger when God told Moses to speak to the rock, causing him to lose out on crossing over into Israel.
The fact that both Catholic and Protestant pursuasions are still around after 600 years or so of bashing each other, suggests to me that perhaps the Church of Christ is a little bigger and much more beyond the imagination than adherents of either persuasion(and lets not forget the Orthodox) can fathom. The answer to that riddle can be found at the foot of the cross and at the open mouth of an empty tomb!
Isn't it true that a majority of Baptist deacons are masons?
The Roman church recognizes that there are no crucifixes or crosses in masonic temples and that the masons hold all religions are equated as equal in spirit. To elevate one over the other would go against the masonic fundamentals.
To get to the 33rd degree you pretty much have to 'get over Jesus' and have your primary allegiance to the craft - not the son of god.
Most religions have a god but only one historically recognizes the flesh and blood son of God. That is the sticking point for masons. There are no crucifixes or crosses in masonic temples. Universal brotherhood trumps christ in the temple. No one will push the point but the unspoken truths are the loudest.
As Christ said, " Those who are not with me are against me". The universal brotherhood of the Masonic craft disallows the primacy and deity of Christ as the primary focus of mankind. Your priest needs to read up on what's what.
I also had an uncle who was a high degree mason, he was very secretive, but let a few things slip to indicate that the ilumini were involved in the high degree of the masons
and he spoke of the pyramid as simply a chain of world power.
This was 50 years ago and I was just a dumb kid, he said things that he would not have said to some one older who knew something.
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