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To: GonzoII

Sounds interesting.

But what role did Catholics play in forming the institutions of this country? What, for example, did 6th century monks have to do with it?

I’m sorry, but this sounds a lot like Afro-centric history does to me. Interesting facts, but irrelevant to the mainstream of events.


4 posted on 09/02/2009 2:05:30 PM PDT by chesley ("Hate" -- You wouldn't understand; it's a leftist thing)
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To: chesley

Do some research on Charles Carroll and see whether our nation would have survived its own birth without him...


6 posted on 09/02/2009 2:19:29 PM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: chesley

Actually, the thinking of Jefferson and most of the other men of the Enlightment were very much shaped by the Catholic theory of natural law (which is essentially the basis of our Constitution and our country).

Jefferson and other people in the English speaking world were also very impressed by the writings of the 17th century Spanish Jesuit, Suarez, who was the first to come up with the idea of the “consent of the governed” as being a prerequisite for governance. He also developed the Christian theory justifying the overthrow of a despotic government.


7 posted on 09/02/2009 2:21:44 PM PDT by livius
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To: chesley

Well, not mentioned is that the entire colony of MD was founded by Catholics for the purpose of providing Catholic refuge - along with “tolerance” for all, which England was not doing.

Indeed, a secret truth is that Maryland was NOT named for “Henrietta Maria” (bah! Why the 2nd name of a queen?) but for the Virgin Mary.

Oh, do the Democrats here go into shock when they hear that!


11 posted on 09/02/2009 3:00:53 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: chesley; pgyanke; livius; the OlLine Rebel
"But what role did Catholics play in forming the institutions of this country? "


Daniel Carroll a Signer of the Articles of the Confederation/ U.S.
Constitution and U.S. Representative in the First Federal
Congress (1789-179)


Charles Carroll a Signer of the Declaration of Independence and a
Senator in the First U.S. Federal Congress (1789-1791)


Thomas Fitzsimons a Signer of the U.S. Constitution and U.S.
Representative in the First Federal Congress (1789-1791)

15 posted on 09/02/2009 10:35:01 PM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: chesley

>> But what role did Catholics play in forming the institutions of this country? <<

Read Clarence Thomas’ discourses on St. Thomas Acquinas and Natural Law.


29 posted on 09/03/2009 9:18:50 PM PDT by dangus (I am JimThompson)
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