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Did Obama receive Holy Communion at Senator Kennedy's Funeral Mass?
August 31, 2009 | Irisshlass

Posted on 08/31/2009 11:51:54 AM PDT by Irisshlass

I read on facebook a woman who watched Senator Kennedy's funeral mass, stated that President Obama received Holy Communion. Is this true? Did anyone watch the Mass?


TOPICS: Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bho44; catholic; communion; tedkennedy
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To: Churchillspirit
By the same token, a Roman Catholic would not be eligible to take communion in a protestant church. You need to be confirmed in the faith to do that.

Untrue. Many protestant churches practice "open communion", meaning anyone can partake.

81 posted on 08/31/2009 4:56:14 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: Nosterrex

Clinton was an abberation. It was in Africa, for cripes sake. Anyone can get in line to get Holy Communion, The priest isn’t asking for proof.

Just cite church scripture, rules, etc that says it is okay for anyone to have Holy Communion.


82 posted on 08/31/2009 5:01:24 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE CENTRAL AIR CONDITIONING!)
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To: frogjerk
But there is a possibility a non-Catholic (not in full communion with the Church) can received the Eucharist.

Only if near death, re grave necessity, and one converts, first.

1401 When, in the Ordinary's judgment, a grave necessity arises, Catholic ministers may give the sacraments of Eucharist, Penance, and Anointing of the Sick to other Christians not in full communion with the Catholic Church, who ask for them of their own will, provided they give evidence of holding the Catholic faith regarding these sacraments and possess the required dispositions.238

83 posted on 08/31/2009 5:05:01 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Nosterrex
I have personally been told by more than one priest that I would be welcomed to receive the Eucharist in the church, and I’m definitely not a Roman Catholic.

These "priests" are wrong.

Please provide the details of what Churches this has taken place in.

84 posted on 08/31/2009 5:10:12 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: BunnySlippers
It happens ALL the time. Does the priest ask for credentials from everyone? Probably not, but I would think that a faithful shepherd would know his flock. What good does it do have Scripture or rules it you don't live by them? Is the Roman Catholic Church suppose to have closed communion? Yes, it is suppose to observe closed communion, but it doesn't. I bet that ninety percent of my congregation has communed in the Roman Catholic Mass. I have couple of Roman Catholics that receive the Eucharist at my congregation. I don't like it, but they were receiving the Eucharist here long before I started. They know that they aren't suppose to receive the Eucharist in a Lutheran congregation, but they are your typical cafeteria Catholics. It is rare to find a Roman Catholic that won't receive the Eucharist in a non-Catholic church.
85 posted on 08/31/2009 5:14:56 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Nosterrex

Regardless, there is no rule, doctrine dogma that says that non-Catholics can receive Communion.

So you are WRONG. Non-Catholics cannot receive Communion.


86 posted on 08/31/2009 5:18:16 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE CENTRAL AIR CONDITIONING!)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

AMEN


87 posted on 08/31/2009 5:19:58 PM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: Irisshlass

Ping to read later


88 posted on 08/31/2009 5:22:44 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (One man, alone! Betrayed by the country he loves, now its last hope in their final hour of need!)
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To: x

Read my question again. I asked if anyone had watched the funeral and if this was true. I didn’t start the rumor, I asked a question. And apparently you don’t have an answer so quit wasting my time.


89 posted on 08/31/2009 5:23:33 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Salvation

Thank-you Salvation.


91 posted on 08/31/2009 5:25:53 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Nosterrex
It is rare to find a Roman Catholic that won't receive the Eucharist in a non-Catholic church.

Firstly, call me and my family rare then. Secondly, yours is a wild assertion not backed up by any objective fact. For a believing Catholic (read not-CINO) to receive communion in non-Catholic Church would be a mortal sin, objectively speaking.

92 posted on 08/31/2009 5:27:07 PM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: Nosterrex

No..Non-Catholics cannot recieve Holy Communion.


93 posted on 08/31/2009 5:27:10 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Nosterrex

Cite church dogma where it says they can. I can cite church dogma that says they cannot. One has to have the Sacrament of one’ first communion. then be in a state of Grace.

The church does not sanction people taking Communion without these in place.


94 posted on 08/31/2009 5:32:56 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE CENTRAL AIR CONDITIONING!)
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To: Nosterrex
Non-Catholics are not to receive Holy Communion in a Catholic Church except in very extreme circumstances proscribed by Canon Law.

A Priest or Extraordinary Minister cannot determine if someone is Catholic or not by external appearance so a non-Catholic could receive the Body and Blood of Christ thru deception or ignorance but the effective grace conferred on said individual would be minimal due to the lack of ability to receive the grace.

95 posted on 08/31/2009 5:34:33 PM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: BunnySlippers; Nosterrex
Nosterrex is arguing semantics. Can someone do something they shouldn't? Absolutely. Is the Priest or Extraordinary Minister to knowingly administer the Sacrament of Sacraments to a non-Catholic? No, it is forbidden by Canon Law except in rare life threatening circumstances as posted earlier by a fellow Freeper.
96 posted on 08/31/2009 5:39:03 PM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: Irisshlass

97 posted on 08/31/2009 5:39:07 PM PDT by John Titor
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To: Nosterrex

You are right. By taking the Eucharist, the nonbeliever is bringing condemnation upon themselves. The Church’s teaching regarding transubstantiation is the main reason I could no longer receive communion. Only a hypocrite would partake in a tradition reserved for the Faithful and thereby make a mockery of what the Church holds so dear. (And, of course Abomination is no hypocrite, right??) In long ago times, when the Eucharist was distributed, Church Law required that only the Faithful be present. Others were required to vacate the assembly. My question is, what priest of the Roman Catholic Church would commit such a distinctly forbidden act? (Assuming this really happened.)


98 posted on 08/31/2009 5:55:31 PM PDT by scottiemom ("In later times some will abandon the faith & follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons")
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To: Salvation

No. That was 10 years ago when Bubba was trolling in Africa.


99 posted on 08/31/2009 6:43:59 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: DainBramage
Im a Christian that understands the importance of communion and I have recieved communion from a super holy priest several times.

I was raised Catholic and still believe that Communion is something different than just being part of the ceremony.

For many years, I have been 'out of communion' with the Church, and while I still occasionally attend, I do not take communion because I have not done what a Catholic needs to do.

There was one exception a number of years ago. I attended a Mass for a departed friend who had no family, and very few friends. There were only a half dozen of us there. The Priest gave a general absolution for any Catholics who were not in a state of grace to accept communion that morning. I don't know why he did it, but I am glad he did because it honored my departed friend. I took Communion then with no guilt and I believe no sin. But I understood that absolution did not extend beyond that moment.

I would not take Communion today, nor until I reconcile my life with the Church, not because the Church is wrong, but because I so respect their teachings and traditions.

It isn't difficult to be Catholic, but it's damn hard to be an honest one. I respect those that are and won't degrade them by pretending to be one.

100 posted on 08/31/2009 7:08:05 PM PDT by Ditto
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