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LORD, WHERE SHALL WE LUTHERANS GO?
VirtueOnline.org ^ | August 22, 2009 | Uwe Siemon-Netto

Posted on 08/22/2009 5:15:57 PM PDT by rhema

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To: aberaussie

My pastor is a friend of our very own, Charles Henrickson, if this gives you an idea of the kind of pastor we have. He is especially scholarly and learned and a complete treasure. I still can’t believe that God brought us to this little church. It is exactly what we wanted.


61 posted on 08/22/2009 7:30:36 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I would think that anyone making the change would welcome the opportunity for a refresher.

Those making the change are likely to be the best catechised of their congregations; the congregations making a change are likely to be the most thoroughly schooled in the Lutheran Confessions.

Expect any remedial catechetical sessions to be very lively exchanges, for the "learners" may be as well or better taught than the teachers!

62 posted on 08/22/2009 7:42:15 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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To: incredulous joe

I hadn’t heard the TV tower story before but it is an ironic one! And one can see the cross clearly in your photo. That serves the Marxists!


63 posted on 08/22/2009 7:42:48 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: the invisib1e hand
"Back to the Catholic Church, where ya came from?"

Nope, you folks learned absolutely nothing from the Reformation.

64 posted on 08/22/2009 7:44:33 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Don't fire unless fired upon, but it they mean to have a war, let it begin here." J Parker, 1775)
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To: livius
"Come back home...to the Catholic Church."

"Home"? To a church where a Grandmother will tell her daughter to verbaly, emotionally and physicaly abuse her child because he wasn't confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church?

If that is "home", I choose to be "homeless"!

65 posted on 08/22/2009 7:48:26 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Don't fire unless fired upon, but it they mean to have a war, let it begin here." J Parker, 1775)
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To: rhema

A synod built on a seminary split, ELCA’ns choosing to believe that the bible is part divine inspiration, part author embellishment set it all off in the 1970’s. They were once part of the Missouri Synod if my memory is correct.

Actually, I’m suprised that they didn’t have gay clergy before - their reputation has been as a pc group for a long time. Lutheran in name only.


66 posted on 08/22/2009 7:48:28 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: rhema

Back to the only Church that wasn’t founded after Pentecost Sunday, 33 A.D.


67 posted on 08/22/2009 7:55:31 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: sbMKE

The ELCA has never been affiliated with LCMS. The ELCA came from the old ALC(American Lutheran Church, of which I belonged)the AELC and LCA.

I now am a member of the LCMS, a true Bible believing church.


68 posted on 08/22/2009 7:56:02 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: livius
Protestants, on the other hand, have accepted homosexuality whole hog.

Inaccurate and less than charitable - I know many evangelicals, both black and white, who don't accept it at all. I had to warn one of my co-workers that his insistence on spreading that word at work could be hazardous to continued employment.

69 posted on 08/22/2009 7:58:42 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: right way right
They won't want us, why should they?

Any church with an outreach would welcome you with open arms. Or, at least they OUGHT to.

70 posted on 08/22/2009 7:58:57 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: rhema

First of all, the ELCA is NOT the only Lutheran denomination. There are several conservative Lutheran denominations that teach that all forms of homosexuality are contrary to the Word of God. You have plenty of options. You shouldn’t be surprised that the ELCA voted to accept another practice contrary to the Word of God. It has been teaching false doctrine since it’s conception. Why did it take you so long to figure this out? What are you going to do about it?


71 posted on 08/22/2009 8:04:00 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: MinuteGal

Yes, agree, “A Mighty Fortress Is Our God” is my favorite all time hymn. Thank God for Martin Luther (this is coming from a former Presbyterian now Independent Baptist).


72 posted on 08/22/2009 8:19:56 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: rhema

Christ promised, in a high priestly prayer spoken the night before He was crucified, that His Church would be unified (Jn 17:1-26). Jesus is perfectly righteous, so His prayers for His Church will be answered. He said the world would know His Church by the unity of His disciples (Jn 17:21).

There are well over 20,000 Protestant denominations. Where is the unity there?

Paul describes the Church as the “Pillar and Foundation of Truth” (1 Tim 3:15). Why so many “truths” in Protestantism?

The essential nature of Protestantism is to attempt to bring renewal through division and fragmentation (protest). This is unscriptural. Jesus, Paul, and John ask for unity and beg members not to let divisions occur.

If you believe Sacred Scripture, you believe Christ promised that the Holy Spirit would guide His Church and the gates of Hell would not prevail against it. The Reformation happened in the 1500s. Does this mean the gates of Hell had prevailed against the Church and that the Holy Spirit ceased to guide Christ’s Church after the apostles died? As said in 2Tim 4:3-4, “when the truth is not pleasing, they will create their own.”

Only the Catholic Church claims Christ as its founder; all other Christian religions claim Christ as their head, but a human as their founder.

The Lutheran Church’s decision is an opportunity, a sign, and a challenge to examine its origins. I ask you, in all humility, to take a fresh look at the Catholic Church. It is full of imperfect people; but its doctrine is unchanged from the time of the apostles. It backs this claim up biblically and historically. If you would like to examine this objectively, read “Surprised By Truth.”

I hope this does not offend you. I just needed to say it to someone who obviously loves God’s word and is searching. God bless your search.


73 posted on 08/22/2009 8:23:38 PM PDT by Melian ("An unexamined life is not worth living." ~Socrates)
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To: utahagen

Your typo makes me smile that is my real name. :)


74 posted on 08/22/2009 8:35:07 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: MichiganMan

Yes unfortuantely what they have been taught I’ve found generally whoever taught it to them didn’t know a thing about Catholicism. Oh well the ones who have come back and joined normally are shocked at what they’ve been lied to about though.


75 posted on 08/22/2009 8:40:42 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Redleg Duke

Please. The Church would never tell her to do this. If the grandmother was a nutcase, that was something she did on her own.


76 posted on 08/22/2009 8:43:22 PM PDT by livius
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To: rhema

Since Lutherans came from the Catholic Church, I see them coming back too. I will not be surprised at all if we have Lutherans as well as some disenchangted Anglicans and Episcopalians in our RCIA classes that are starting in September.

What do the rest of you think?


77 posted on 08/22/2009 8:43:27 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: nina0113

There are many individual Protestants that haven’t, obviously, but the problem is that an increasing number of Protestant churches are officially accepting and approving homosexuality. I should have been more specific and I apologize.

Sin exists in any group, in any family, in any church. But that’s a wholly different matter from when the group, family or church suddenly announces that they approve of that sin and it’s no longer a sin anymore. That’s what has happened in this case.


78 posted on 08/22/2009 8:47:44 PM PDT by livius
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To: Salvation
Since Lutherans came from the Catholic Church, I see them coming back too. I will not be surprised at all if we have Lutherans as well as some disenchangted Anglicans and Episcopalians in our RCIA classes that are starting in September.

What do the rest of you think?

As other denominations fall away, more and more people will be drawn to the Catholic Church. I think the last two Protestant denominations will be Southern Baptists and Assembly of God.

79 posted on 08/22/2009 9:02:13 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: the invisib1e hand

And how many homosexual priests will they find there?


80 posted on 08/22/2009 9:08:05 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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