Posted on 08/06/2009 7:52:33 PM PDT by jxb7076
Except in biblical or other written religious accounts, no scientific evidence has ever been documented to prove that there is a physical Heaven or a physical Hell. In the absence of evidence why then do millions of people believe so strongly in a Heaven and a Hell and how could such beliefs in the unproven have survived scientific scrutiny for so long?
For those raised in Judea-Christian doctrine Heaven and Hell does, in fact exist and one of these places is waiting for the soul of the deceased in the afterlife.
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Which pop song had the lyrics “I swear there ain’t no heaven, but I pray there ain’t no hell...” ?
Can we have our cake and eat it too?
Hell is definitely real. There’s a guy at work who was actually dead for two days before they were able to bring him back. He went to hell and said it was pretty darn bad.
However one want to pronounce the word, based on its description it appeared to be hell on earth. Thanks for history. I really appreciate it.
Blood, sweat, and tears - one of my favorite groups.
I have to admit that I am a skeptic on these incidents although I pray that I never experience the moment.
Just wait and see.
They speak as though heaven and hells were planets.
Or I could be way off and it's just metaphorical. As a spirit, being surrounded by fire and other evil entities would be most unpleasant, but after the resurrection, if a being found itself trapped there, the pain would last for as long as the earth lasts and possibly forever in some way.
As to heaven, I think it might be another dimension. Jesus ascended while witnesses could see him then disappeared in a cloud. The cloud *may* have been the door to another dimension or represent a mystery or concealment.
It seems reasonable that if heaven were someplace in the universe, Jesus would have kept rising until the witnesses could no longer see Him or headed in a different direction other than straight up which is relative to where they were standing and time of day. He ascended of his own power whereas Elijah was shown ascending in a chariot but I don't know if there's anything else about that.
The cloud could represent a mystery or hidden but must have looked real. There are other examples of clouds in the bible but I can't think of the context.
Maybe I should have kept my thoughts to myself because I'm no theologian for sure.
God’s Word speaks of heaven and hell - it’s not a mystery. If one doesn’t believe God’s Word, why would they want to spend eternity w/Someone they don’t believe in.
Excellent point!!
Perhaps God parked heaven in one galaxy and hell in another. The universe is certainly big enough that it could be some place where we have not looked.
Perhaps heaven and hell are in distinct universes. For those “scientists” (or others) who believe in an infinite number of universes, surely one is hell and another heaven.
Perhaps hell is for small people, who become smaller yet before entering. Hell may be a very small place. Hell may be someplace in your dog's chew toy.
The possibilities are endless.
The probability of intelligent life existing anywhere in the universe is indistinguishable from zero. Yet here we are.
I am glad you shared your thoughts. I am encouraged to conduct futher study on the subject. Thanks for sharing.
I was not responding to the title question, but to the first sentence:
“Except in biblical or other written religious accounts, no scientific evidence has ever been documented to prove that there is a physical Heaven or a physical Hell.”
Acts 2: “29”: Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
All of the bible is true, so when you see something that seems to conflict, you know that you must study more.
Acts 2: “29”: Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
All of the bible is true, so when you see something that seems to conflict, you know that you must study more.
It is interesting how many freepers are referring to Heaven or Hell as physical places. Given that so much of Christianity is linked to spiritual and supernatural concepts, why the big concentration on a physical afterlife? I suppose that the mind is perpetually bound to the physical, so that’s the way that most people think. Hard to get out of that rut, though a Christian should have less difficulty dealing with a spiritual existence.
Is it actually that difficult for folks to conceptualize Heaven and Hell as a state versus a place? Time to indulge your spiritual self if it’s too challenging. Just something to think about.
Just some of my stranger thoughts. :O)
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