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To: chesley; Melian; MarkBsnr
The mother of the Lord, yes. The mother of God, no. Can’t buy it; can’t say it.

You do realise WHY we call her that, right? As we found during the Nestorian heresy (Nestorius was on the same page as you -- he was a holy man who wanted to defend The Church against the heresy of Arius. Your question comes from a real place, from a person really trying to know God.) to deny Mary the title of Theotokos means either that:

1. The Trinity is made of 3 separate Gods, or
2. There were two separate "persons" in Christ -- distinct from each other, so God did not experience life as a human or
3. Christ was NOT God or
4. He was a created being, a lesser god.


Do you believe in any of those points? I don't think you do. But the denying of the title Theotokos opens up those points as the only alternatives.

Reiterating again -- The Church believes that Mary was / is NOT God, she is a created being, she is inferior to God.
85 posted on 07/23/2009 6:23:12 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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To: chesley; Melian; MarkBsnr
Here is a good post explaining this
86 posted on 07/23/2009 7:23:32 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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To: Cronos

OK, I follow your logic. I still don’t like, or agree with, the terminology.

I DO know that while I was living in the Phillipines I heard one person explain the Trinity as the Father, the Mother, and the Son, so I think there is room for the more uneducated of Catholics to fall into error here, and I think the “Mother of God” phrase can contribute to it.


89 posted on 07/23/2009 7:35:44 AM PDT by chesley ("Hate" -- You wouldn't understand; it's a leftist thing)
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