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Book of Mormon Explorers Claim Discoveries in the Desert, Part Two (OPEN)
Meridian Magazine ^ | by Bruce Santucci

Posted on 07/11/2009 2:21:52 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

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1 posted on 07/11/2009 2:21:52 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
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2 posted on 07/11/2009 2:24:25 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Please God, deliver us from the deprivations of the Obamonster, and do it SOON!)
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1. “Posters may argue for or against beliefs of any kind. They may tear down other’s beliefs. They may ridicule.”

2. “On all threads, but particularly “open” threads, posters must never “make it personal.” “

That seems like a contradiction to me. Hw can one tear down and ridicule, but not make it personal?


3 posted on 07/11/2009 2:28:02 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.

Ridicule the beliefs, respect the person. There’s a difference.


4 posted on 07/11/2009 2:39:43 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: greyfoxx39

if anyone doubts that the Book of Mormon is a literal history, they won’t after reading our book and seeing our videos.
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Never doubted that “the bom is a literal history...”

It is a literal history of plagarism and some added ravings of an imaginative conman’s mind and some input from his gang..


5 posted on 07/11/2009 2:44:57 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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From the article: "Potter and Wellington have written a book on their explorations. It is due to hit the shelves of LDS bookstores in 2002. The book includes over 2000 scholarly footnotes from non-LDS sources. Their citations include personal correspondences with scholars from universities, the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Germany, Saudi Arabia and Oman. Their theories on Nephi’s ship include insights from correspondence with the well known explorer Tim Serverin, Tom Vosmer (Director of the Ancient Omani Ships Project of the Western Australian Museum of Maritime History), and Frank Linehan (of the United States Maritime Administration)."

From Amazon: "Lehi in the Wilderness" is written from a Mormon perspective and with the understanding that it is a fact that Lehi was a real prophet, and that the Book of Mormon is a true history. Those outside the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints do not make that same assumption."

There are many problems in the text concerning the interpretation of the Book of Mormon and applying the text to the physical locations in the Arabian Peninsula. Overall, the book contains entirely too much supposition to warrant serious consideration as "evidence" for the Book of Mormon. The dialogue is bogged down with consistent terminology such as "could have been," "might have," "should be," "if this were," and various other sundry phrases which are merely prerequisites to injecting presumptions concerning the possibility that Lehi actually existed on the Arabian Peninsula. The photographs ARE remarkable, good choices in the effort to provide supports for the Book of Mormon account, and I appreciated the amount of references provided in each chapter, making it easier to research the material. It's a "must read" for apologetics.

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #661771 in Books

I'm just wondering why, since this book was published in 2003, there hasn't been major media attention to this "proof" of the BOM? Has the Smithsonian weighed in?

6 posted on 07/11/2009 3:01:28 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Please God, deliver us from the deprivations of the Obamonster, and do it SOON!)
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To: ctdonath2

“Ridicule the beliefs, respect the person. There’s a difference.”

Some beliefs are very closely held by people. If a belief is ridiculed, the holder will feel ridiculed, too. The difference is easy to convey but impossible to enforce.


7 posted on 07/11/2009 3:09:28 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: greyfoxx39

The Book of Morman is based on the Masonic Bible, hence the reason Mormans are barred from becoming Masons.... Nuff said.


8 posted on 07/11/2009 3:16:14 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: Jumper
According the Lightplanet.com web site they are allowed to be Masons.
9 posted on 07/11/2009 3:51:35 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Lehi never existed see the following

http://www.josephsmithauthorbyproxy.com/

Others at the Maxwell institute dispute this book. If the TBM at Maxwell dispute the book, then its evidence is hardly irrefutable or ironclad.


10 posted on 07/11/2009 6:14:13 PM PDT by Godzilla (TEA: Taxed Enough Already)
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To: Buck W.

Methinks the lead admonishment was more a warning to the hearer than the speaker - as in there WILL be ridicule of the beliefs, take it gracefully.


11 posted on 07/11/2009 6:50:53 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: Jumper

hence the reason Mormans are barred from becoming Masons....
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WOW I didnt know that...

I did know that Joey Smith had joined the Masons and had gone up the ladder to 33rd degree in one day or jusst a couple...

One of the oaths that Masons take is to never devolge the secret info etc...

Joey Smith did...

He not only told unworthy cronies of his...

But he also incorportated the practices of the Masons into his home made religion which he was using for prifit...

Another of the oaths (as far as I know) is that the Masons swear a blood oath to agree that it is OK to kill them if they do tell..

Joey Smith knew there were Masons at the Carthage Jail...

He thought they would save him...

He thought he could bend anyone away from doing the right thing...

But they did what they had sworn to do...

Joey betrayed their trust...

so the Masons spilled his blood ...


12 posted on 07/11/2009 8:16:32 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Jumper

What is a Masonic bible? And is it different than a KJV?


13 posted on 07/11/2009 9:06:06 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953
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To: greyfoxx39

Let me guess: they found lots of sand.


14 posted on 07/12/2009 5:18:27 PM PDT by nesnah (Expression with an attitude - http://www.polistic.com)
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To: Jumper
The Book of Morman is based on the Masonic Bible, hence the reason Mormans are barred from becoming Masons.... Nuff said.

I work with a Mormon who is also a Mason.

Nuff said.

15 posted on 07/12/2009 10:18:33 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals do not view the book 1984 as a warning but as a textbook.)
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To: greyfoxx39
There are many problems in the text concerning the interpretation of the Book of Mormon and applying the text to the physical locations in the Arabian Peninsula.

Why...

...it's as accurate, if not MORE, than the stuff Nostradomass has written!

--MormonDupe(I believe HE was a prophet, too - just not one from GOD)

16 posted on 07/13/2009 5:30:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Buck W.
If a belief is ridiculed, the holder will feel ridiculed, too.

Someone once said:

"If you can't stand the heat..."

17 posted on 07/13/2009 5:32:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: GreyMountainReagan
 
 
 

 

 
Why don't Mormon send flowers??
 

18 posted on 07/13/2009 5:34:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

LOL


19 posted on 07/13/2009 5:37:22 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: greyfoxx39
Potter originally set out with Craig Thorsted and Tom Culler

to find the mountain some people believe is the real mount Sinai.


20 posted on 07/13/2009 5:37:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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