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New rows deepen old ruts in Catholic-Jewish relations
National Catholic Reporter ^ | Jun. 23, 2009 | John L Allen Jr

Posted on 06/27/2009 10:09:47 AM PDT by Pope Pius XII

Rip Van Winkle famously went to sleep for twenty years and missed the American Revolution. Had he been a modern expert in Catholic-Jewish relations, however, Van Winkle could have awoken from two decades of slumber this week and felt right at home, as long-standing tensions over both Pope Pius XII and the conversion of Jews once again roiled the inter-faith waters.

Taken together, these episodes suggest that for all the progress in Catholic-Jewish ties over the last half-century, the relationship is nonetheless stuck in a couple of ruts that just seem to get deeper over time.

Current events also illustrate another point: Sometimes matters that look like divisions between Jews and Catholics are fueled at least as much by intramural Catholic tensions, with Jews sometimes caught in the crossfire.

Pius XII

The contretemps over Pius XII, the wartime pope whose alleged "silence" on the Holocaust has long been a source of controversy, began with a mid-June conference in Rome sponsored by the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples (better known by its old Latin name, "Propaganda Fidei"). During that event, Fr. Peter Gumpel, a German Jesuit and longtime postulator for the sainthood cause of Pius XII, asserted that Pope Benedict XVI has gone slow in declaring Pius a saint because "representatives of Jewish organizations" have warned him that "relations between the Catholic church and the Jewish would be definitively and permanently compromised."


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Apparently nobody told them about the 600,000 Jews that Pope Pius XII was personally responsible for saving.
1 posted on 06/27/2009 10:09:47 AM PDT by Pope Pius XII
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To: Pope Pius XII

Or all the radical Jewish lawyers in the ACLU who constantly challenge everything Christian/Catholic


2 posted on 06/27/2009 10:19:42 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Pope Pius XII
Sometimes Catholics are caught pouring gasoline on the fire....
"I spoke to Mel a couple of weeks ago about this. And I don‘t think it really matters a whole lot to him. It certainly doesn‘t matter to me. We‘ve already won. Who really cares what Hollywood thinks? All these hacks come out there. Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular. It‘s not a secret, OK? And I‘m not afraid to say it. That‘s why they hate this movie. It‘s about Jesus Christ, and it‘s about truth. It‘s about the messiah.

Hollywood likes **** sex. They like to see the public square without nativity scenes. I like families. I like children. They like abortions. I believe in traditional values and restraint. They believe in libertinism. We have nothing in common."

-- Bill Dononue, President of the Catholic League
Comments made on Scarborough County, MSNBC, December 8, 2007


3 posted on 06/27/2009 10:54:42 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Theology is the Queen Of The Sciences)
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The Jews target those who support them as enemies and align themselves with enemies who want the Jews destroyed — and then the Jews wonder why they end up alone. Why do Jews have such animosity towards Christians?


4 posted on 06/27/2009 11:05:37 AM PDT by EverOnward
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Or all the radical Jewish lawyers in the ACLU who constantly challenge everything Christian/Catholic

Or insecure Catholics who nervously constantly post these defense of the pope threads.

5 posted on 06/27/2009 1:05:46 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Alex Murphy

How exactly does that pour gas on the fire?

Are you honestly trying to say that it isn’t secular Jews who make most of the big decisions in Hollywood? So, if a Jews says the same thing, then what does that mean?


6 posted on 06/27/2009 2:29:21 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; A_Former_Democrat
AFD>Or all the radical Jewish lawyers in the ACLU who constantly challenge everything Christian/Catholic

Or insecure Catholics who nervously constantly post these defense of the pope threads.

Amen.

If PPXII asked YHvH to be his salvation,
then he is a saint in heaven.
otherwise not.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
7 posted on 06/28/2009 12:11:22 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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