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Eight myths about the Bible
Norfolk LDS Church Examiner ^ | June 22 | Greg West

Posted on 06/22/2009 7:01:44 PM PDT by delacoert

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To: delacoert
The origin of the New Testament begins with two second-century heretics. Marcion, a bishop's son and a wealthy ship owner, was the first to create a canonical list of books.

It is possible someone else first created a canonical list.

21 posted on 06/22/2009 8:34:53 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Elsie

John Mill (1645-1707, England) published the “Greek New Testament”, 1707, with indications of 30,000 variants. This was long before Joseph Smith. In that context, Smith was just stating what scholars of the day already knew.


22 posted on 06/22/2009 8:38:38 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: sushiman

How would you know that?


23 posted on 06/22/2009 8:39:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
“burning in the boosom”

Mocking the New Testament? You heathen! :-)

24 posted on 06/22/2009 8:39:56 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: delacoert

It is quite a leap to go from pointing out the history of canonical list making and authoritative canonical list making. After all, unless you are catholic, the authoritative canonical list had to come a bit later, like over a thousand years later.


25 posted on 06/22/2009 8:43:15 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: delacoert
The canon is closed

A FReeper quoted the Revelations scripture to me recently. False traditions take time to overcome.

26 posted on 06/22/2009 8:45:38 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: TheDon; OneWingedShark; Ruy Dias de Bivar; lurk; Elsie; delacoert
Give a try!


27 posted on 06/22/2009 8:48:50 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Theology is the Queen Of The Sciences)
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To: delacoert
Modern, sectarian Christians hang Bible verses like ornaments on an artificial tree constructed of man-made creeds, ignoring the passages which conflict with or contradict their doctrines. In the process, they have allowed a number of myths about the Bible to be promulgated because it serves their own ends.

The biggest Biblical myth yet is the supposed changing of the weekly day of worship to Sunday. This doctrine is not expressed in scripture....not even hinted at. The seven places in the New Testament that most folks claim are the verses justifying this doctrinal error don't even say what most translations claim. They are: [Matthew 28:1][Mark 16:2][Mark 16:9][Luke 24:1][John 20:1][Acts 20:6-7][I Corinthians 16:2] and all these verses refer to the Sabbath day....not the "first day of the week".

The same organization that the author claims gave us the false traditions regarding the "Trinity" also gave us the false traditions regarding Sunday observance.....with no scriptural justification whatsoever. In fact....they know it to be false, continue it anyway.....and even make fun of Protestant diligence in pursuing this false tradition along with them!

Here s a little of what the Catholic Church has to say on the subject: No such law in the Bible "Nowhere" in the bible do we find that Jesus or the apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday. We have the commandment of God given to Moses to keep holy the Sabbath day, that is, the Seventh day of the week, Saturday. Today, all Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the [Roman] church outside the Bible." Catholic Virginian, Oct. 3, 1947

"You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctified." James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of Our Fathers (1917 ed.), pp.72,73

"If protestants would follow the Bible, they should worship God on the Sabbath Day, that is Saturday. In keeping Sunday they are following a law of the Catholic Church." Albert Smith, chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, replying for the cardinal in a letter of Feb. 10, 1920.

"Have you not any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?" "Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her, she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the Seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority" Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism 3rd ed. p. 174

How prove you that the Church hath power to command feasts and holydays? By the very act of changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of; and therefore they fondly contradict themselves, by keeping Sunday strictly, and breaking most other feasts commanded by the same Church." Henry Tuberville, An Abridgment of the Christian Doctrine (1833 approbation), p.58 (Same statement in Manual of Christian Doctrine, ed. by Daniel Ferris [1916 ed.], p.67)

"The Catholic Church,... by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday. " The Catholic Mirror, official organ of Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893.

"Is Saturday the 7th day according to the Bible and the 10 Commandments?" "I answer yes". "Is Sunday the first day of the week and did the Church change the 7th day, Saturday, for Sunday, the 1st day?" "I answer yes". "Did Christ change the day?" "I answer no!" Faithfully yours, "J. Cardinal Gibbons" Gibbons' autograph letter.

So what happened when the Mormons arrived on the scene with their new doctrines and strange theology? They jumped in line behind Martin Luther and followed right along with this totally Catholic innovation which has no scriptural standing whatsoever! This is why (although there seem to be many fine folks among them.....as there are among the Catholics and the Protestants also) I have never taken them too seriously about much of what they say.

28 posted on 06/22/2009 8:49:38 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: TheDon
A compilation of books.
29 posted on 06/22/2009 8:51:27 PM PDT by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim; imperat animus sibi, et resistitur -- Augustini)
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To: delacoert
Latter-day Saints will be more effective by teaching the gospel from the Book of Mormon than from any other source.

Except that the BoM contains no 'gospel' that ANY different than what is already in the BIBLE!

30 posted on 06/22/2009 9:02:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TheDon
...with indications of 30,000 variants.

Does one of the varients mention Angels of Light?

Does any of them mention "teaching as you have received it"?

Do some of them mention "preaching ANY other gospel" to be ACCURSED?

31 posted on 06/22/2009 9:07:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TheDon
It is quite a leap to go from pointing out the history of canonical list making and authoritative canonical list making.

Speaking of leaps...

Do you want to leap into the void and ignore the question:

"Just WHAT did Joseph Smith find to be UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism?"

32 posted on 06/22/2009 9:09:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Diego1618
The biggest Biblical myth yet is the supposed changing of the weekly day of worship to Sunday. This doctrine is not expressed in scripture....not even hinted at.

I'm sorry; but you are wrong.

33 posted on 06/22/2009 9:12:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Except that the BoM contains no 'gospel' ...

Likewise; it contains NO references, AT ALL, to the TEMPLE RITES® that Temple Worthy MORMONS do.

(Neither do any OTHER of the Mormon Organization's Standard Works©.)

34 posted on 06/22/2009 9:16:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: delacoert

(((((SIGH))))))


35 posted on 06/22/2009 9:29:27 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: MHGinTN

LOL


36 posted on 06/22/2009 9:30:05 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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37 posted on 06/22/2009 9:36:39 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: TheDon
Tracing the lineage/origin of the NT canon as is nonsense.
38 posted on 06/22/2009 9:37:17 PM PDT by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim; imperat animus sibi, et resistitur -- Augustini)
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To: delacoert

It is but one more necessary lie apologists must carry in order to remain ‘unawakened’ and tied to mormonism’s many deceits and contradictions. These apologists have been touting that lie in one form or another for more than a year during this current LDS church push. Denegrating Orthodox Christianity is vital to creating confusion into which they pour the fantasies of Mormonism.


39 posted on 06/22/2009 9:43:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: OneWingedShark
I find it better to just not even start and walk away sometimes. Usually stifling the laugh until I am out of ear shot.

Not always though...

40 posted on 06/22/2009 10:11:45 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney is a more subtle version of Arlen Specter with better hair...)
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