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Pmary65
Since Jun 3, 2009

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Passover in Israel is 7 days, not 8.

The eighth day was added during the Diaspora because of concerns that local calendars/times might be off.

What was the middle bit?

In those verses we commonly find the Koine Greek phrase; 'μιᾷ τῶν σαββάτων' which is transliterated 'mia ton Sabbaton' and is translated to literally mean; 'one of the Sabbaths'

The actual translation is "MIA TWN SABBATWN". Sabbaton is not Sabbatwn

Sabbaton is the invented Greek word for Sabbath (the Greeks had no such word....or day). Sabbatwn is also an invented Greek word meaning "Special Sabbath". If you look at the link you'll notice that in each case where the word Sabbatwn is used it designates either an Annual Sabbath (one of God's seven) or it designates one of the seven Special Sabbaths between Passover and Pentecost.

All of the resurrection passages use the word Sabbatwn, not Sabbaton. These are [Matthew 28:1][Mark 16:2][Luke 24:1] and [John 20:1]. In addition you'll also notice the word Sabbatwn describing the Sabbath in [Acts 20:7] and [I Corinthians 16:2] which are verses always included in an incorrect attempt to prove up a Sunday resurrection. If it is a normal Sabbath being referenced the New Testament will use the word Sabbaton, Sabbasin......or if the word Sabbath is an adjective (like in Sabbath day) it will be Sabbatou. Sabbtw is the singular form of Sabbatwn.

The word Sabbaton is derived from the Hebrew and the associated words in the link come from the Hebrew also. Here is [Leviticus 23:32] describing the "Day of Atonement" from The Tanakh [32 šabaṯ šabāṯwōn hû’ lāḵem wə‘innîṯem ’eṯ-nafəšōṯêḵem bəṯišə‘â laḥōḏeš bā‘ereḇ mē‘ereḇ ‘aḏ-‘ereḇ tišəbəṯû šabatəḵem: f] This is the Hebrew with English script and pronunciation....obviously.

As you can see.....the Apostles attempted to transliterate the same sound of Sabatwon (Hebrew) into Sabbatwn (Greek) when referencing a "Special Sabbath" and you also find this usage in the Septuagint as well.

SABBATWN in the Greek is never used to describe an ordinary Sabbath.....only the Sabbath on which the resurrection occurred or an annual Sabbath....one of seven.

Mark 16
1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, bought spices, so that they might come and anoint Him.
2 Very early on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen.
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9 Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.

Luke 24:1 - But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared.

Matthew 28:1-2
Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave. And behold, a severe earthquake had occurred, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled away the stone and sat upon it.

John 20:1 - Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw the stone already taken away from the tomb.

John 20:17 Jesus said to her, "Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.'"

Ok, so we clearly have the ladies getting to the tomb on Sunday, right around dawn, and the tomb is empty. Mark 16:9 makes the claim that he rose on the first day of the week. John 20:17 has Jesus not having ascended to heaven yet. If he rose on the Sabbath, then Jesus is just chillin around for 12 hours waiting for the ladies to show up so he can then go to ascend to His Father. There is also the pesky little issue of work being done on the Sabbath (i.e. getting resurrected).

To further solidify this point, let us travel back to the OT:
Lev 23
11 He shall wave the sheaf before the LORD for you to be accepted; on the day after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
12 'Now on the day when you wave the sheaf, you shall offer a male lamb one year old without defect for a burnt offering to the LORD.

So here we have the waving of the sheaf offering on the day after the Sabbath (i.e. Sunday). This a picture of Christ's resurrection and it happend on a Sunday.

The same chapter talks about Pentecost:
Lev 23:
15 You shall also count for yourselves from the day after the sabbath, from the day when you brought in the sheaf of the wave offering; there shall be seven complete sabbaths.
16 'You shall count fifty days to the day after the seventh sabbath; then you shall present a new grain offering to the LORD.

So the day of Pentecost always happens on a Sunday (the day after the seventh Sabbath). Remember in verses 15 and 16 was the waving of the sheaf offering, which typified Christ's resurrection and 50 days later was Pentecost.

If Christ rose on the Sabbath, then he would not have fulfilled any of the prophetic messages regarding His resurrection and the NT texts would make no sense.

JM

FWIW, I think you've done a great job. I first heard a day by day, holiday by holiday runthrough along the lines of yours over 30 years ago. Welcome to FreeRepublic.

Nam Vet