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President Kieschnick Responds to Tiller Killing
The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod ^ | 1 June AD 2009 | Dr. Gerald B. Kieschnick

Posted on 06/01/2009 5:35:45 PM PDT by lightman

President Kieschnick Responds to Tiller Killing

ST. LOUIS, June 1, 2009 —In response to the shooting of George Tiller, Dr. Gerald B. Kieschnick, president of The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod, issues this statement:

"The national news today carries the story of Dr. George Tiller, the abortion doctor in Wichita, Kan., who was killed yesterday at his church—Reformation Lutheran Church in Wichita, a congregation of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.

"This tragic incident obviously will have an impact on all Lutherans and all Christians, especially those of us who believe the teaching of Scripture that abortion is not a moral option except as a tragically unavoidable by-product of medical procedures necessary to prevent the death of another human being.

"We join others who are expressing sadness and strong disagreement with this act of violence and express our sincere Christian sympathy to the wife and family of the man whose life was ended, especially at a time and place of Christian worship. We also continue our efforts as Lutheran Christians to speak the truth in love, not in violence, regarding the sanctity of God's precious gift of life at all ages and all stages, doing so with concern for the protection of the lives of all."

About The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod

The St. Louis-based Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod, founded in 1847, has 2.4 million baptized members in 6,170 congregations served by more than 9,000 pastors. The church, which ranks as one of the largest Christian denominations in the United States, owns and operates the KFUO radio stations, two seminaries, 10 colleges and universities, and the largest Protestant parochial school system in America. The LCMS is in full doctrinal fellowship with 30 other confessional Lutheran church bodies on six continents, supports more than 800 missionaries in nearly 90 countries around the globe, and is a founding partner of Lutheran Services in America, an alliance of two Lutheran church bodies and their more than 300 social ministry organizations, with budgets totaling more than $9 billion and serving one in every 50 Americans. For more information, visit www.lcms.org.


TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: abortion; kieschnick; lcms; lutheran; moralabsolutes; tiller
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"This tragic incident obviously will have an impact on all Lutherans and all Christians, especially those of us who believe the teaching of Scripture that abortion is not a moral option except as a tragically unavoidable by-product of medical procedures necessary to prevent the death of another human being.

Amen.

1 posted on 06/01/2009 5:35:45 PM PDT by lightman
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...


Lutheran (LC-MS) Ping!
2 posted on 06/01/2009 5:37:18 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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To: lightman

Thank you.


3 posted on 06/01/2009 5:41:41 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: lightman
Vigilantism is wrong, but what happens when the law protects a monster fully on par with a Joseph Mengola? I find it impossible to mourn the death of this "doctor", and I have often wondered at the moral cowardice (mine included) that allows these abortion clinics to remain standing. A just society would march with sword and flame to tear these places down. A fat, comfortable society bereft of strong convictions clearly won't.

I quote: "The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity".

4 posted on 06/01/2009 5:51:34 PM PDT by Batrachian
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To: lightman; Cletus.D.Yokel; bcsco; kittymyrib; Conservativegreatgrandma
I don't agree with President Kieschnick on much of anything with regard to controversial issues within our synod (church growthism, contemporary worship, restructuring, etc.), but on social issues (abortion, homosexuality) there is no controversy within our synod--we all pretty much take the conservative position. And so I would agree with his statement today.
5 posted on 06/01/2009 5:57:53 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS)
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To: Batrachian

It is a shame that this violent deed took place.

I’ll leave it up to you all as to how the killing of this one man compares to his personal destroying of an estimated 65,000 innocent babies after taking The Hypocratic Oath to DO NO HARM.

But, IMHO Dr. Tiller is now in Hell, where he belongs.


6 posted on 06/01/2009 5:59:29 PM PDT by Tucker39 (I Tim. 1:15b " .....Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.")
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To: lightman

A well-balanced and thoughtful response.


7 posted on 06/01/2009 6:03:00 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: Charles Henrickson

Thank you for speaking for me, too. This is a tragedy. All day long I’ve been thinking about the babies that were scheduled to die this am that may have been spared.


8 posted on 06/01/2009 6:04:28 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: lightman
I'm glad he's dead. I'm sorry he was shot. I would have preferred “eaten by worms” ala Acts 12:21-23.
9 posted on 06/01/2009 6:33:26 PM PDT by tbpiper (How would you define a 'domestic enemy of the constitution'?)
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To: lightman

The LCMS excommunicated Tiller, so it’s clear where it thinks Tiller now is.


10 posted on 06/01/2009 7:03:21 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: lightman
I loved the letter. President Kieschnick included all the polite, sympathy boiler-plate stuff - plus the expertly-deft touch of the stiletto - all in a very Christian way, of course, heheh.

Leni (Missouri Synod)

11 posted on 06/01/2009 8:16:10 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for the American)
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To: Tucker39

I agree that, whenever a doctor performs an abortion, he or she violates the Hypocratic oath, since each abortion harms and kills a baby. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion should lose his or her medical license.

I’ve been Lutheran all of my life, and I was surprised and disappointed that a member of any Lutheran church performed abortions.


12 posted on 06/01/2009 8:26:58 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: Charles Henrickson; Conservativegreatgrandma

ANOTHER fine LCMS response:

http://walts-worldrandp.blogspot.com/2009/06/letter-to-editor.html

Letter to the Editor
Topic: The Murder of Dr. George Tiller
May 31, 2009

There is an old saying: Two wrongs don’t make a right. This does not appear in the Bible but it certainly reflects a scriptural idea. This concept, that two wrongs don’t make a right, is certainly true in the case of the murder of Dr. George Tiller.

Dr. Tiller was an infamous abortionist, who was one of the very few in the country who would perform late-term abortions. The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod is strongly pro-life, and condemns the practice of abortion. Dr. Tiller, a former member of a Missouri Synod congregation, was excommunicated by that congregation for his abortion practice. (The congregation he was currently attending is part of another Lutheran body.) We stand by that action. Our sister congregation acted properly in disciplining Dr. Tiller. Such action is always intended to lead a person to see their sins and come to repentance. Excommunication is never intended to bring that person harm.

While we condemn Dr. Tiller’s actions as an abortionist, we just as strongly condemn the actions of the person who took his life. Murder, even of a murderer, is never acceptable. God teaches us in Romans 13 and other places, that the government is in place to enforce justice. We are never to take private vengeance. This is simply not given to private individuals. Murder in any circumstances is a grievous sin. It was our utmost desire that Dr. Tiller come to repentance, and perhaps in time he may have. We do not know. Only God sees all ends. Sadly, because of this heinous act of violence, Dr. Tiller no longer has that opportunity.

Rev. Jody R. Walter, pastor LCMS
Immanuel, Frederic

Rev. David Emmons, pastor LCMS
Zion, Turtle Lake/Immanuel, Clayton

Rev. Mark Schoen, pastor LCMS
Shepherd of the Valley, St. Croix Falls


13 posted on 06/01/2009 8:38:09 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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To: lightman
This tragic incident obviously will have an impact on all Lutherans and all Christians, especially those of us who believe the teaching of Scripture that abortion is not a moral option except as a tragically unavoidable by-product of medical procedures necessary to prevent the death of another human being.

Well, if that is the case, maybe you better think again about letting baby killers serve as ushers in your churches.
14 posted on 06/01/2009 9:28:57 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: lightman
Has anyone from the ELCA called for mercy and forgiveness for Tiller's executioner?

The ELCA seemed to have saved all it's mercy and forgiveness for Tiller.

15 posted on 06/01/2009 9:55:55 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Tucker39

thanks...I wasn’t raised as kumbaya Christian

have no connection to a lot of the postings and flailing about with mea culpas I see here...

Tiller made his own reckoning...I have no sympathy for him...zero.

and no his life is not worth that of one baby he killed...not in my world view

no disrespect to the Mo Synod folks

whatever that other church was Tiller belonged to must be run by that red cat with the long tail is all I figure


16 posted on 06/01/2009 9:59:35 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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To: P-Marlowe

Christianity has nothing to do with my being anti-abortion.

I’m tired of bended knee sorts thinking they own the issue

they don’t

any human knows killing babies is wrong...a 15 month old knows that as surely as they like sugar in their milk


17 posted on 06/01/2009 10:01:58 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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To: wardaddy

It was a LCMS church that excommunicated him. He was currently ELCA. There is a world of difference.


18 posted on 06/02/2009 4:29:47 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (I)
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To: lightman

This man Tiller’s death is an object lesson. Death, especially sudden death, is a great teacher. And the death of a monster like Tiller even more so. We prepare for eternity through repentance and “metanoia” in this life. It was too late for Tiller.

“Just as no one sells merchandise when the celebration ends, thus also in the tomb no one makes deals for the Kingdom of God.” +Basil the Great


19 posted on 06/02/2009 4:32:13 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Charles Henrickson; lightman; Cletus.D.Yokel; bcsco; kittymyrib; Conservativegreatgrandma
I don't agree with President Kieschnick on much of anything with regard to controversial issues within our synod (church growthism, contemporary worship, restructuring, etc.), but on social issues (abortion, homosexuality) there is no controversy within our synod--we all pretty much take the conservative position. And so I would agree with his statement today.

Well said Pastor. I grew up knowing several Kieschnicks (some of which are his kin) in the central Texas area, and many of them don't agree with him either.

20 posted on 06/02/2009 5:21:32 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It took almost 250 years to make the USA great and 30 days for "The Failure" BO to tear it down.)
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