“Can you ordain a hermaphrodite?” (Jesuit Tera-Barf Alert)

Cal Catholic Daily ^ | 5/14/2009

[markomalley]

“Can you ordain a hermaphrodite?”

Santa Clara University theology professor says Church had long history of ordaining women that ended because of “virulent misogyny”

Gary Macy, a professor of theology at Jesuit-run Santa Clara University, told attendees at a Monday night lecture at the Vanderbilt University Divinity School in Nashville, Tennessee, there is little room for historical doubt that women were ordained in the Catholic Church until about the end of the 12th century.

Macy’s lecture, entitled “A Higher Calling for Women? Historical Perspectives in the Catholic Church,” was given at Benton Chapel on the Vanderbilt campus. The university’s news service described the lecture this way: “The very idea of the ordination of women in the Roman Catholic Church is dismissed by many as contrary to basic church doctrine. Gary Macy, the John Nobili, S.J. Professor of Theology at Santa Clara University, says historical evidence is overwhelming that for much of the church’s history, the ordination of women was a fact.”

Macy has held his post at Santa Clara University since September 2007. Before that, he taught at the University of San Diego for 29 years. “During his years in San Diego, Dr. Macy published several books and over twenty articles on the theology and history of the Eucharist and on women’s ordination,” says the Santa Clara University web site. Among his books is The Hidden History of Women’s Ordination, published in 2007.

[markomalley]

School Website: http://www.scu.edu/

Santa Clara University, a comprehensive Jesuit, Catholic university located in California's Silicon Valley, offers its more than 8,000 students rigorous undergraduate curricula in arts and sciences, business, and engineering, plus master's, Ph.D., and law degrees. Distinguished nationally by the fourth-highest graduation rate among all U.S. master's universities, California's oldest operating higher-education institution demonstrates faith-inspired values of ethics and social justice.

Bile rises in the throat...

[Krankor]

Jamie Lee Curtis wants to be a priest?

[EAGLE7]

Jamie Lee is an hermaphrodite?!!

[Blood of Tyrants]

It is a stupid question. There are no true hermaphrodites.

[markomalley]

Maybe this would qualify for the rarely awarded Yotta-barf award.

(BTW, yotta = 10²⁴, as opposed to mega = 10⁶)

[mamelukesabre]

How do you know he meant humans?

[Krankor]

That’s the rumor.

[nomad]

Now dats allot`a barf!

[Lee N. Field]

Jamie Lee Curtis, Hermaphrodite?.

The mind boggles.

[EAGLE7]

“There are no true hermaphrodites.”

Well...there was that night long ago. It was raining and cold and I was lonely. Yes the city, though full of people, can make you feel like a conservative at a gay pride parade.
There she was. Beautiful, young. She had the kind of body that would make a Franciscan Friar kick a Mother Superior in the ovaries. She seemed to be calling my name. I went over. We talked, laughed, shared stories...

We were just two lonely souls looking for a change...something different...
Well I tell you I sure found something...some - thing, very different...She took me back to her pad..Funny, she lived alone but had posters of The Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders and Eric Estrada.. I was confused. But the loneliness weighing on my soul like a Richard Simmons client, and the spirits consumed earlier got the best of me...

We kissed...her face gave mine a louf job. Still, I threw caution to the wind and went for the prize...I found what should have been there..but then....I found myself juggling like an ol chinaman working a pair a chi balls....

I could go on but why bring up bad memories...

[markomalley]

Jamie Lee Curtis, Hermaphrodite?.

The mind boggles.

Sure thing...

[Natural Law]

If Professor Macy was an hermaphrodite he really could do what I want to tell him to do.

[m4629]

there is little room for historical doubt that women were ordained in the Catholic Church until about the end of the 12th century.

Really? That's interesting. How could it be that none of these alleged women priest ever became saint and venerated on the altar?

[SuziQ]

I don’t know where he’s getting his information, but I believe it’s a mite faulty, and more like wishful thinking.

[chase19]

More brainwashing the next generation.

[VanShuyten]

I wonder about the validity of that assertion, too. Does “ordained” mean as priests? I’m sure there were splinter sects that did this, such as the Cathars, but was it Roman church policy?

[m4629]

My understanding is that the term “ordained” is reserved to the “clergy” — bishop, priest, deacon.

On the other hand, nuns or sisters are “consecrated”, so are dedicated/proclaimed virgins (rarely happens nowadays).

These days, there are plenty of manhater-feminazi-priestess-wannabes who want nothing but the perceived power of priests. Just ask them if they understand belonging to the priesthood necessarily means absolutely obedience without question and you will get a “dialogue” :-D

In all seriousness, I speculate there are tons of unknown/unstudied documents in the Vatican archives that would show only men were ever ordained as priests throughout the ages.

[iowamark]

According to Macy, until about the mid-12th century, women were ordained as deaconesses, served as bishops, distributed Communion and even heard confessions. “Women were considered to be as ordained as any man… they were considered clergy,” he said. ...

“The Holy Spirit is alive and well,” said Macy. “And what She wants, She gets.”

Half truth. There were women deacons in the early church, but they were limited to roles dealing with women and children. There were no women priests or bishops.