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Psychics, Fortune Tellers and Mediums
5/9/09 | Me

Posted on 05/09/2009 7:46:28 AM PDT by NoGrayZone

Just wondering if anyone's church advises their members to avoid these things. I work with someone who is a strict Catholic, was this close to becoming a nun, but yet she see's nothing wrong with seeing seer's of the dead.

I know the Bible clearly states this is detestable to God (I'm at work and don't have my Bible so I can't give you the versus). She says she reads her Bible everyday so I did write down the book and chapters for her and asked her to read it for herself. This was done after a lengthy conversation with her and another gal.

I was just wondering if anyone's church advises you not to see psychics or mediums. I grew up Lutheran and do not remember them ever advising me to steer clear of such people.


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She also said her church has never advised against it and has no "law" against it.
1 posted on 05/09/2009 7:46:28 AM PDT by NoGrayZone
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To: NoGrayZone

its in the catechism. She may need to read it.


2 posted on 05/09/2009 7:49:03 AM PDT by genxer
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To: genxer

Thank you, I will tell her.


3 posted on 05/09/2009 7:49:54 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (The beauty of the 2nd amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. T.J.)
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To: genxer

Do you have it handy? Or do you know exactly what it states?


4 posted on 05/09/2009 7:50:29 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (The beauty of the 2nd amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. T.J.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Just direct her to what happened to Saul when he conjured up Samuel. That did not end well.


5 posted on 05/09/2009 7:51:08 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: NoGrayZone

Can’t help thinking of the tabloid psychic’s who make predictions every year, and if one prediction comes true every twenty years or so they then make a career out of it. They live on the old truth “There’s a sucker born every minute”.

But then again, there was Edgar Cayce, and he was creepy interesting, religious, and often accurate.


6 posted on 05/09/2009 7:52:10 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart.........Palin 2012, can't come soon enough.)
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To: NoGrayZone

“She also said her church has never advised against it and has no “law” against it. “

The teaching of the Church has ALWAYS been that this is strictly forbidden.

This “strict” Catholic is either ignorant or lying.


7 posted on 05/09/2009 7:52:35 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: NoGrayZone
What is the Christian view of psychics?


8 posted on 05/09/2009 7:52:54 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: NoGrayZone

Also have her speak to a priest about mediums, seances, ouija boards etc. I believe the Church will (should) set her straight on the dangers of demonic contact


9 posted on 05/09/2009 7:53:15 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: NoGrayZone
Deu 18:10

"There shall not be found among you [any one] that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, [or] that useth divination, [or] an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch..."

10 posted on 05/09/2009 7:56:16 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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"This “strict” Catholic is either ignorant or lying."

I think a little of both.

11 posted on 05/09/2009 7:57:09 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (The beauty of the 2nd amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. T.J.)
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To: NoGrayZone
In which prison is Miss Cleo these days?

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12 posted on 05/09/2009 7:57:18 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: NoGrayZone

She’s telling you to MYOB...and I agree...


13 posted on 05/09/2009 7:57:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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" These “gods” or “spirits” are demons"

I just told my friend that this morning, who was the one that advised me this catholic gal went to a medium last night. She laughed at me and called me "extreme" and closed minded (shrug).

14 posted on 05/09/2009 7:59:37 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (The beauty of the 2nd amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. T.J.)
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Ooops...continued:

Deu 18:11

Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
Deu 18:12
For all that do these things [are] an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
Deu 18:13
Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.

15 posted on 05/09/2009 8:00:16 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: silverleaf

I will definitely advise her to speak with her priest about it, although, I doubt she will. I’ll just continue to “push it” and encourage her not to see them anymore.


16 posted on 05/09/2009 8:02:17 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (The beauty of the 2nd amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. T.J.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Perhaps her “spiritual” eyes have not been opened.


17 posted on 05/09/2009 8:03:27 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: NoGrayZone
She laughed at me and called me "extreme" and closed minded (shrug).

Warn her once and let her go her way. That is all you can do, anything else is a waste of your time.


18 posted on 05/09/2009 8:03:34 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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"She’s telling you to MYOB...and I agree..."

If she was telling me to MYOB, she would NOT be talking to me about it, let alone starting the conversation with me.

19 posted on 05/09/2009 8:04:00 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (The beauty of the 2nd amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. T.J.)
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To: NoGrayZone

There are many local or regional variants of Catholicism that look the other way regarding the occult. Santeria, Voudun (voodoo) and other more obscure groups springboard off of Catholicism and then intermingle African pagan magical practices.

A clear reading of the Bible indicates that it is wrong and is strong in condemning seeking the dead, but that hasn’t prevented people from trying to do so. I’ve known people who profess to be Christian, and also witches, as contradictory as that sounds. But, as far as I understand, it is no longer possible if it ever really was, and those who believe themselves to be in the presence of or in communication with the spirit of a dead person are being deceived, either in their own minds, by external demonic influences or both.

There are entire “schools” of witchcraft and the occult drawing upon twisted Biblical understanding, as well as from several apocryphal books, Enoch in particular. It’s a dangerous thing; it’s a power that we as humans are ill-equipped to deal with or withstand, and it is to be shunned.

A nun, of all people, should know better.


20 posted on 05/09/2009 8:04:24 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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