To: Kolokotronis
If anyone has the oldest original Latin version of the Creed please post it." I'll bet there's no "filioque" in it! The Nicene Creed to be specific, and it's my understanding that it was Charlemagne who pushed for its inclusion.
58 posted on
05/02/2009 5:25:27 PM PDT by
Desdemona
(Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue. http://www.thekingsmen.us/)
To: Desdemona; Kolokotronis; kosta50
Don't forget the historical reasoning behind the adding of the filioque.
The Visigoths conquered Spain from the Roman Empire in the 5th and 6th centuries.
They were Arians (who denied the divinity of Christ and considered him purely a demiurge).
The majority of their subjects were Apostolic, however.
Hispania then had two parallel Churchs: one orthodox and one arian.
To explicitly differentiate the orthodox view from the arian, the Spanish priests added in the filioque to indicate that we orthodox believe that Christ is not a "lesser god" but an integral part of the Godhead.
Let's not forget the intentions were good, but the addition should only have been added in post council.
87 posted on
05/04/2009 7:16:27 AM PDT by
Cronos
(Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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