The young are the most Calvinistic: Trouw

DutchNews.nl ^ | 29 April 2009

[Alex Murphy]

Young people are more conservative than older people, they are more orthodox in their approach to religion and voted for the Calvinist CDA party at the last election, researcher Joke van Saane of Amsterdam's VU university told the paper....little remains of the Calvinist work ethic. 'I really noticed how many people said 'I already work hard. I am not working any harder',' she told Trouw.

[Petronski]

They ought to put their faith in Christ, not Jean Cauvin.

[Marie2]

Calvinism is just shorthand for a particular doctrinal view. Calvinists are Christians, just like an Arminian, a Baptist, whatever.

I’m a Calvinist in my theology. Calvin taught we are saved by faith in Christ alone.

[Petronski]

Calvin taught we are saved by faith in Christ alone.

He was wrong.

[Jemian]

No, he wasn’t wrong. Calvin was very right.

[Petronski]

Right about the little pocket deity he made in his own image?

I suppose.

But not right about the Lord God Almighty.

[huldah1776]

How? Please supply Scriptures.

[Petronski]

Supply Scripture to establish what is not there?

How would I do that?

[Tennessee Nana]

French Huguenot (Calvinist) ancestors Bump

[huldah1776]

What other way of salvation in addition to the faith given by God? Even our faith is a gift, as far as I understand—

Ephesians 2:8 (New International Version)

8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—

Anything else we need?

[The Grammarian]

I could have sworn you were Eastern Orthodox. When did you switch to Popery (to use an old term somewhat tongue-in-cheek)?

[Petronski]

Sola fide is not Biblical. Neither is sola Scriptura.

[Petronski]

I am not Eastern Orthodox and I am not engaged in “popery.”

[huldah1776]

The whole sentence - I love Paul’s long sentences. I write like that without commas and get in trouble!

Ephesians 2

1Also you — being dead in the trespasses and the sins,

2in which once ye did walk according to the age of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience,

3among whom also we all did walk once in the desires of our flesh, doing the wishes of the flesh and of the thoughts, and were by nature children of wrath — as also the others,

4and God, being rich in kindness, because of His great love with which He loved us,

5even being dead in the trespasses, did make us to live together with the Christ, (by grace ye are having been saved,)

6and did raise [us] up together, and did seat [us] together in the heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus,

7that He might show, in the ages that are coming, the exceeding riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus,

8for by grace ye are having been saved, through faith, and this not of you — of God the gift,

9not of works, that no one may boast;

10for of Him we are workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to good works, which God did before prepare, that in them we may walk.

Even our good works were prepared for us.

[Petronski]

Ephesians 2:1-10 cannot be pulled from the Bible and read alone.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

I’m not a big fan of Calvin, but it’s better than them having heroin-addled gay sex in the middle of a street in Amsterdam, I suppose.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

Ephesians 2:1-10 cannot be pulled from the Bible and read alone.

Nor can it be ignored.

[Petronski]

No need to ignore it.

[huldah1776]

So what else is needed to receive the gift of eternal life?

[Petronski]

“Go forward and sin no more.”