Posted on 04/23/2009 10:05:32 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
It is an interesting view of what goes on. I have always believed JWs to be very nice people. Unfortunately, they deny the deity of Christ, so it’s a no go.
“I grew up thinking the Jehovahs Witnesses were a cult.”
And you weren’t wrong.
Why no windows?
That's what I'll be asking unless someone here can tell me.
Freedom of religion is just that. I don’t agree with Russell and Rutherford, but I have an uncle who is confined to a rest home and can’t leave his bed. He lives on the other side of the country, suffering from muscular dystrophy.
The witnesses come and fellowship with him every week and of course, study with him. No one else does. God bless the witnesses for that.
I was hoping he(she?) was going to go bang on their door and demand that the people inside drop everything they were doing so he could try to convert them.
The one down the street from my house has windows. Lots of them.
Kind of a pessimistic way to go through life...
I attended a few JW Sunday Services but their Wednesday meetings were more interesting. Part of those meetings are for practicing their door to door skills.
They are a very studious group and the reason many Christians are scared of them is that most Christians don’t study their Bibles 1/2 as much as JW’s study their doctrines. So the “JW is a cult” mantra is more out of fear than fact.
Like them or not, they will not behead you for failing to agree with them.
That was my first thought, too. Didn't anyone ever teach him manners? "We're not interested, thanks, but you have an nice day!" *click*
The thing to ask a Jehovah’s Witness is: “When did Jehovah God die?” -
The JWs believe that upon death, we go to the grave and lie in the ground awaiting the final judgment. I'm not sure if they believe we have a soul or not but they sure believe that upon death, it's all over until who knows when. No afterlife, no judgment, no heaven or hell, nothing. Just a kind of dormancy or suspended animation.
So you take them to the passage where Jesus is dying on the cross and the Good Thief has just asked Jesus to be merciful and Jesus says to him "I tell you truly, today you will be with me in paradise".
Well JW, Jesus says that this man will be with Him in paradise today. That pretty much sinks your idea, doesn't it?
Oh no, says the JW smiling, you've got the comma in the wrong position. It should be " I tell you truly today, you will be with me in paradise". The comma comes after "today", not before. IOW, Jesus is telling the thief today (as opposed to yesterday or last week) that he will be with him in paradise at some future date as yet unknown.
True story.
JW-ism was invented to lure the confused, easily deceived and downright ignorant.
I used to have a SIL who was JW I learned enough about it from her and know they have their won issues. When she told me that the Pope was the anti Christ I knew it was not for me.
won=own
(As if Muslims in the West would do that -- or Turkey -- or...talk about promulgating fear)
I have to call BS on that. JW are conscientious objectors and do not serve in the military or take part in what they believe are worldly governments.
Maybe. Or perhaps a more likely explanation might be that these friends were either lapsed or disfellowshipped JWs. [JWs are probably one of the most active cults which disfellowships some of its members. Often, all communication between active JWs and the disfellowshipped JW is suppose to cease]
There are JW's in the military? I thought that was against their beliefs.
I've always had a soft spot for the JW's. Aside from having had some JW relatives at one time in the past I admire them for being so decidedly un-liberal that they'll have nothing to do with anyone else (no ecumenism here!). And their "Theocratic anarchism" used to appeal to me back when I didn't want G-d implicated in the world as it exists today. They refuse to participate in any human government because they believe human government is a plot of Satan and G-d is a sort of "once and future king" Who is going to fix things one day if we'll ever humble ourselves enough to admit we can't do it and stop trying. In fact, their "the governments are all run by Satan" actually was an influence on me joining the conspiracist John Birch Society. It turns out there's no connection whatsoever between JW Theocratic anarchism and JBS conspiracism (the latter believe that human government is splendid idea that was sabotaged only relatively recently). Of course this whole thing is based on a false dualism that turns Satan into a "gxd," which he isn't.
The JW's are also the only thoroughly integrated Fundamentalists and they deserve a kind word just for this.
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