listen stooopid... you can only serve ONE master.
Posted on 03/15/2009 6:00:57 AM PDT by csvset
Even as a Brown University student, Ann Holmes Redding was never far away from controversy.
She was barely into her freshman year in 1968 when she joined a black student walkout to get the university to admit more blacks — a move that resulted in a near quadrupling of the number of black students to about 250 the following year.
And after students staged a strike that effectively closed down the university to show their opposition to the Vietnam War, Redding was part of a “blue ribbon” delegation from Brown that went in the spring of 1970 to Washington to talk to such alumni as White House aide Charles Colson and U.S. Sen. Claiborne Pell about ending the conflict.
But these days, as she approaches the 25th anniversary of her ordination as an Episcopal priest on March 25, Redding, who lives in Seattle, faces controversy of a different sort. She is on the verge of being defrocked by Rhode Island Episcopal Bishop Geralyn Wolf because of her insistence that she can be a Muslim and Christian at the same time.
Bishop Wolf, who is Redding’s canonical superior, has told Redding that her conversion to Islam through her recitation of Shahada, the basic Islamic creed, constitutes an abandonment of the Christian faith and that unless she recants by March 30, she will no longer be a priest.
The warning, formally issued by Bishop Wolf with the backing of the diocesan standing committee last September, has been among the communications that began in September 2007, soon after Bishop Wolf attended a meeting of the House of Bishops and heard stories about a priest claiming to be both Muslim and Christian.
Bishop Wolf recalls getting up at that meeting and saying such a stand was misguided because the fundamental teachings were incompatible. Only after returning to Rhode Island, she says, did she discover that Redding, a former parishioner at St. Stephen’s Church in Providence, had been ordained by her predecessor, Bishop George N. Hunt. Because Redding never shifted her canonical residence, Bishop Wolf is her superior.
“I had her come in because I didn’t want to rely on a newspaper story,” the bishop recounted. “I said to her, ‘This is a spiritual challenge for you to decide where you are in terms of your understanding of the Christian faith, especially Christ’s passion, and resurrection and incarnation. I want you to take some time to seek spiritual direction.’ ”
Redding had been, until March 2007, the director of faith formation at St. Mark’s Episcopal Cathedral, in Seattle, and was just starting a stint as a visiting scriptural scholar at the Jesuit-run Seattle University. News of her unusual embrace of Islam and Christianity had gotten into the local papers and had been warmly received by the then-bishop of Olympia, the Right Rev. Vincent Wardell Warmer, who called her move innovative.
But Redding received a different set of marching orders from Bishop Wolf, who directed her not to wear the collar or to act as a priest for one year, and then extended it for three more months.
When the bishop and priest met again last September, Redding repeated her view that she saw no conflict between embracing Islam and following Jesus. It was then that Bishop Wolf said she would begin proceedings to have her deposed.
In Bishop Wolf’s view, the moment that Redding recited the words of the Shahada, the creed that says “there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger,” she gave her allegiance to Islam and abandoned the Christian faith.
“As I understand it, Muslims do not believe in the divinity of Christ. They don’t believe in the death of Christ or that he is the Son of God, which are cornerstones of the Christian faith. Yes, there are people in every religion who try to stretch the basic tenets of a belief, but if you choose to be a priest within the Episcopal Church you are speaking for the church and its teachings. It demands a commitment.”
Reached at her home in Seattle, Redding said Thursday that unless something causes her to radically change her convictions in the next few weeks, she will “continue to be faithful to the call and invitation that God has given to me.”
She says that while she had been familiar with some of the teachings of Islam, she began looking at them more seriously after inviting Muslims to speak at the cathedral in the aftermath of 9/11.
But it was a personal crisis, one she does not wish to share, that led her, she says, to a realization that “I needed to totally surrender myself to God. Surrender to God is what Islam is about.”
She says she first recited the Shahada alone in her mother’s apartment in Pennsylvania a month after her mother died, and then in a public ceremony before several dozen members of Al Islam Center of Seattle, a largely Sunni community with whom she had been praying for six months.
“It never occurred to me I was leaving Christianity any more than the early disciples of Jesus would have felt they were leaving Judaism by becoming his followers,” she said. “It was only after the fact that I recognized it could be very confusing to many people.”
And how does Redding place herself between two faiths, one which holds that Jesus is the Son of God and another that regards Jesus as a prophet and forerunner to Muhammad but not God’s Son?
Redding, who’d like to be a bridge between the two faiths, insists that the two religions are closer than many think. The Koran, like the New Testament, teaches that Jesus was born of a virgin. She says she finds that Muslims are more firm in that belief than many Christians she knows, who seem not to be sure.
She says she continues to believe that Jesus is divine but goes on to explain that she believes there is an element of the divine in all of us. “We are all children of God.”
“When Christians say that Jesus is the only-begotten son of God, we are putting into words an understanding of the uniqueness of Jesus and the unique intimate relationship we have with him and his mission,” she says. “But I don’t think that the ‘only begotten Son’ language is to be taken literally.”
In a departure from traditional Islamic teaching, Redding holds that Jesus was crucified and was resurrected. She argues that the Koran doesn’t explicitly deny that Jesus was crucified but only that the Jews did not crucify him.
However, Imam Abdul Hameed of the Islamic Center of Rhode Island disputes her reading. The Koran, he says, makes clear that Jesus was not crucified or killed, but was “lifted up” to God.
“I think she is a little confused. There is no possibility for one to be both a Muslim and a Christian,” Hameed said. “If she doesn’t believe that [Jesus] is the son of God, she is not Christian. And she can’t be a Muslim if she believes Jesus died on a cross.”
Redding says she prefers to stay away from some of the constructs theologians have built to help decide “who is in and who is out, who is going to heaven and who is not.”
“The Trinity is a wonderful way of thinking about God. … But will I reduce God to a formula? No.
“To those who say you have to believe in the formula, I say, ‘No, God cannot be packaged.’ ”
Even now, facing the possibility of being defrocked, Redding continues to worship at various Episcopal churches and to receive communion. On Fridays, she goes to recite prayers at the Islamic center.
Redding comes from a family that is used to fighting for what they believe.
Her late father, Louis L. Redding was the first and only black lawyer in Delaware for 25 years and was part of the NAACP legal team that successfully challenged school segregation in Brown vs. Board of Education before the Supreme Court.
But even Redding believes she is in an uphill battle. She says her situation might be easier if the the U.S. Episcopal Church itself weren’t under pressure from conservative prelates in other countries who want the church to be thrown out of the Anglican Communion for ordaining a gay bishop. She notes that many of the church’s sharpest critics are Third World prelates who are competing with Muslims every day.
Bishop Greg Rickel, who became leader of the 33,000-member Olympia Diocese after the controversy started, said he agrees with Bishop Wolf that Redding can’t be a member of two faiths.
But he adds: “I also want to say I love Ann Holmes Redding. She has taught me a lot and I enjoy her company. As a person of faith here, she gets a lot of support.”
Redding, who has just co-authored a book, Out of Darkness Into Light, that looks at the Koran from Jewish, Christian and Muslim perspectives, says she doesn’t know how her story will end and only time will tell if she is wrong in saying she can be both Muslim and Christian.
“In both traditions we have criteria for judging whether one is following God: Does this bear fruit? Is it useful to the communities we’re a part of? Is healing, compassion and love the result?
“Let others have their opinions about it.”
Utter nonsense.
Apparently Redding didn’t have time, in her activism days, to study history. She might have noted that her new co-religionists din’t find being Christian and Muslim at the same time possible. She could have seen this in the imposition of the Umaa by force of arms throughout the CHRISTIAN Middle East, Mediterranean littoral, Iberia, and the Balkans; as well as by the Dhimmitude imposed on non-converting Christians in Muslim held areas. What an A*s!
At times, people need to step back and assess their lives, make corrections, then keep marching. This lady needs a reality check.
Um, as a Priest, isn't it her job to help Christians who are weak in their faith, and in their understanding of their faith, to make it stronger?
You don't do that by confirming their doubts by joining an anti-Christian religion.
Good grief. The Bishop should strip her of her credentials, examine what the seminaries are teaching, and hand her a copy of Mere Christianity while he's at it.
listen stooopid... you can only serve ONE master.
How many of these people hold positions of authority in the main stream churches???
And the so-called “main line” denominations continue to waste away because of nonsense like this. Why should she be given time to recant? She clearly doesn’t uphold the teaches of the church and should be gone immediately.
Plus, tell her there’s no such thing as a “woman priest” just like there’s no such thing as a “man priestess”. There’s just priests and priestesses, and she, being a woman(?), would be a priestess.
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2) Redding, who has just co-authored a book, Out of Darkness Into Light, that looks at the Koran from Jewish, Christian and Muslim perspectives, says she doesn’t know how her story will end and only time will tell if she is wrong in saying she can be both Muslim and Christian.
Yes, time will tell. And I can with reasonable certainty say how her story will end if she doesn't change.
Such is the problem with the Mohammadens. Their system is salvation by works alone -- and that can't get anyone to Heaven.
If she can be a “woman priest” then why can’t she can be a “Muslim Christian”? The camel’s shoulders are in the tent.
Such is my point. She can't be either a "woman priest" or a "Muslim Christian", but the camel's nose/shoulders/whatever being under the tent seems to make her (and likely others) think either is possible.
[For the reasonings regarding women's ordination, you can find them in the encyclical letters Inter Insigniores (1976) of Pope Paul VI, and Ordinatio Sacerdotalis (1994) of Pope John Paul II. Both of these explain why women's ordination is impossible, even assuming a situation where the ordaining bishop is a valid bishop that can do so -- most Anglican bishops, and therefore also priests, are not, per the reasons outlined in Pope Leo XIII's Apostolicae Curae (1896).]
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Thanks be to God that Bishop Wolf is a shepherd of the sheep who is willing to apply the rod of correction!
Even the “big tent” must have its limits and he has properly defined them.
Pray that God gives him the grace and courage to continue in what he has resolved.
It shows that there are limits, even for Bishop Geralyne Wolf.
This was too much for her.
Talk about the blind leading the blind!!!!!!!
Perhaps we can all chip in to purchase her a burkuble (combination burka/chasuble) as a going away present?
I think the slogan would make her head explode.
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