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Do you think the Hopi and Mayan Prophecy's are intertwined with Biblical Prophecy End Times?
Vanity | March 13th, 2009 | TaraP

Posted on 03/13/2009 9:38:22 AM PDT by TaraP

What is going on with our Electromagnetic Field? it seems to be Collapsing. Is this one of the *Signs* Jesus wants us to take notice of? what about the Mayan and Hopi Prophecy's? are they also eluding to the end time events we find in the Holy Bible? (Luke 21:24-28) They shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be fed away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring: men's hearts fail­ing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Magnetosphere MayDay? Randa Jazairi 3-12-09

Something serious is happening in the cosmos. Have a look at the magnetosphere. It appears the fields are reversed or non-existent. No magnetosphere is something we have been warned about (there has been a huge hole in it for a few years now) and it really does appear to be so:

link to www2.nict.go.jp http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/index.html

Looks like Earth's charge is running down. No new current is flowing in. Blue lines should be on top and red lines on bottom, such as the magnetic field should dictate.

But they are not in such a way. The polarity is going the opposite way.

Should also be noted that there were many Gamma Ray Bursts today (10 in the past 7 days): http://grb.sonoma.edu/index.php And now this: COSMOS IS FALLING: The first fragments of shattered satellite Cosmos 2251 are about to reenter Earth's atmosphere. According to US Strategic Command, fragment 1993-036PX will reenter on March 12th, followed by 1993-036KW on March 28th and 1993-036MC on March 30th. These are probably centimeter-sized pieces that will disintegrate in the atmosphere, posing no threat to people on the ground.

Cosmos 2251 was shattered on Feb. 10th when it collided with another satellite, Iridium 33. Cosmos 2251 possessed about one and a half times more mass than Iridium 33 and to date appears to have produced more than twice the number of fragments.

link to spaceweather.com http://spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=10&month=03&year=2009 AND IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, CNN has reported that there has been an evacuation of the International Space Station. Of course, within minutes they said evacuation is cancelled but I don't think so. Hopi Prophecy says something about when the ISS falls, that is the last sign. For Discussion:


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To: Marysecretary

INDEED! INDEED! INDEED!


141 posted on 03/13/2009 5:45:37 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Lee N. Field

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo impressive . . .

as usual.


142 posted on 03/13/2009 5:46:37 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

Your erroneous personal personhood assaultiveness appears to be in it’s usually great working order.

I’m sure The Lord is quite impressed.
/s


143 posted on 03/13/2009 5:48:27 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: TaraP; JesusBmyGod; Cvengr; Joya; MamaDearest; marbren; nmh; navygal; oprahstheantichrist; ...
It appears that a major proportion of the naysayers need some ENGLISH REFRESHER LESSONS:

“personal”

IS NOT REALLY that difficult a concept.

It comes from the word “person.”

A “PERSON” is

DIFFERENT from

1. A GROUP
2. THEY
3. Y’ALL
4. THEM
5. SOME OF THEM
6. CADRE
7. A COLLECTION OF

WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM [i.e. NOT the SAME as]:

A “PERSON” IS directly associated with

1. YOU
2. HE
3. SHE

I realize that the more chronic naysayers tend to have a dreadfully difficult time distinguishing between

DIFFERENT

VS

SAME

but it does make it a lot easier when some of them try.

AND, I realize that the more chronic naysayers have this THING about

OBSESSIVE, ADDICTIVE EXTRAPOLATING, ASSUMING, INFERRING . . .

however, as I understand things . . .

EXTRAPOLATING, ASSUMING, INFERRING

[accurately or not]

PERSONAL “INSULT” DOES NOT COUNT.

The rules have to do with plainly written PERSONAL insult.

We will return screens to regularly scheduled programming after the following freebie additional refresher lesson:

This English Comprehension lesson has concluded.

DISTINCTIONS REALLY ARE IMPORTANT.

DISTINGUISHING

THE DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN

THE CHURCH AGE

VS THE MILLENNIAL AGE

IS IMPORTANT IN SCRIPTURE. It could rationally be considered important in life.

DISTINGUISHING

THE DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN

AN INDIVIDUAL

VS

A GROUP

IS IMPORTANT.

DISTINGUISHING

THE DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN

calling even a group idiotic vs a belief, perspective, idea, doctrine idiotic

IS IMPORTANT.

I’m beginning to wonder if it’s something in the holy water that REPLACEMENTARIAN, preterist, amil’s might drink that renders them incapable of making important distinctions.

Of course, the awake, aware and alert need no such lessons and the otherwise will not heed them but . . . just for the record, there they are! LOL.

144 posted on 03/13/2009 6:09:38 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; GLDNGUN; TaraP

Reading through a few of the posts regarding non-Christian Sources. It occurs to me to mention that there are quite a few Biblical Scholars (presumably even some of whom even the most “pious” people on this thread would recognize and support) have long used ancient civilization’s myths & stories, as well as historical documentation to PROVE parts of the Bible where it matches up with things that can be evidenced in these cultures (historical events, practices, etc...).

The other thing that occurs to me is that today’s Christians seem to think that before Christ no-one KNEW God in a personal way (I think Abraham and Moses would disagree), but HOW did they find God themselves??? Before the Torah, before the Bible, how did people come to find God - surely one would not say he “wasn’t there”!

Some of these ancient texts (prophecies, stories, myths - whatever you want to call them) were simply man’s way of explaining parts of the spiritual world around them - including GOD.

While I wouldn’t take the text of these myths (usually passed down in a spoken history tradition) as verbatim truth as many believe the Word of GOD in the Bible to be, but to say that there is NO WAY that ANY of these ancient civilizations’ myths and such can be proven to be NOT influenced by God in one way or another would be to completely ignore the nature of God himself, IMHO. God doesn’t need books - it is only us humans who need to put it down in some mentally organized way in order for us to be able to teach others, and recall lessons learned ourselves!!!

Obviously, it would take a VERY long drawn-out explanation to address all the little issues that come up during a discussion of this sort. However, I would caution people who throw the baby out with the bathwater when studying and acquainting themselves with the beliefs of ancient peoples’ to not dismiss everything so quickly.

God has spoken to man since the beginning of time, and HE will still be speaking to man’s spirits when all recognizable traces of our Earth are worn away.


145 posted on 03/13/2009 6:29:21 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Quix
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo implessive . . .

as usuar.

So full of meaty content, as usual.


146 posted on 03/13/2009 6:31:53 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("I'm so thankful for the active obedience of Christ. No hope without it." -- J. Gresham Machen)
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To: LibertyRocks

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

ETERNITY IN THEIR HEARTS

is a great book about how

THE GOD OF THE BIBLE broke through to various tribal peoples around the world WITHOUT ANY OUTSIDE CONTACT INITIALLY.

It’s a great faith-building book full of modern day miracles from GOD ALMIGHTY to various tribal groups around the world.


147 posted on 03/13/2009 6:35:32 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Lee N. Field

Thanks tons.

However, flattery is unlikely to earn very much from me! LOL.


148 posted on 03/13/2009 6:36:17 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: LibertyRocks

YOUR QUITE LOGICAL,

SCIENTIFICALLY AND THEOLOGICALLY ACCURATE

BIBLICALLY SOLID

response was a great blessing and encouragement to me.


149 posted on 03/13/2009 6:42:02 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54; Quix; TaraP

I wonder what Moses’ friends waiting for him on the desert floor said when he descended the mountain with HIS “magical stone tablets” symbolizing the laws of God that would allow His people to prosper with power and authority, and to keep his Commandments here on Earth till the day He returns?

Why is Moses’ story treated as fact without question, and this Hopi story (which could’ve honestly been written about the EXACT SAME EVENT!!!) is treated as nothing more than pagan heresy — is it because the Pope declared that certain parts of the Bible should be included, and only those books (remember this happened WAY before the reformation folks)? It may also help to realize that it is highly doubtful that the Pope and his Cardinals sitting in Rome during the time of Constantine and the Council of Nicea had even a CLUE about some other civilizations halfway across the world and their beliefs — much less be able to make ANY comparison between the historical retellings of Moses receiving the 10 commandments as written in the Torah with the stories in these other cultures that AGAIN seem to point to the SAME EVENT!

Just because some of these ancient civilizations’ myths and stories don’t sound EXACTLY the same way as they are told in the Torah and the Bible doesn’t mean there is no truth in the other “versions”. If anything the appearance of these similar stories throughout ancient civilizations when communication was not even seemingly possible only leads to MORE PROOF that God was indeed speaking to man - and not just the Hebrews with Moses and his descendants!

I don’t pretend to understand everything God does here — it’s humanly impossible for our brains to comprehend the millions of little points that the Lord probably juggles on a daily basis to keep us all going here! LOL — however, I don’t pretend to presume that I DO understand it all. The rules and dogma of the Church as it exists today was MOSTLY made by MAN, and politics and power have long been a part of it. The rules were not made for GOD but for man.

How do we know that Israel didn’t receive its’ favored status because out of all the civilizations and people in the world at that time the Hebrews were the only ones who really “got it”, and were willing to submit themselves? The truth is - WE DON’T KNOW! God could have chosen a handful of people alive at the time to carry these things out (again in Moses’ time Hebrews weren’t the only people held in slavery). It could merely have come to the point that only Abraham was willing to kill his child, only Moses was willing to turn his back on the Pharoh and embrace God — maybe others in our world failed where they prevailed and THAT is why we have the Judeo-Christian roots we have today...

No-one on this thread is saying to chuck out your Bible and embrace the Mayan or Hopi way of life. But, I think the saddest thing for all Christians happens when we fail to see God’s spectacular ability to speak to each man’s heart and soul - regardless of their language, how they grew up, and where they live, or what they believe. There was a reason God impressed upon these so-called “Pagans and Non-Believers” to commit these stories of creation, and the making of the tablets, etc... to memory and why God impressed upon them the desire to make sure their children knew these things. Consider this — perhaps these myths and stories were impressed upon the minds of these men BY GOD so that in the future when their descendants were exposed to Christianity THEY could see the TRUTH that crossed the oceans without ships???


150 posted on 03/13/2009 6:55:48 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: LibertyRocks

If anything the appearance of these similar stories throughout ancient civilizations when communication was not even seemingly possible only leads to MORE PROOF that God was indeed speaking to man - and not just the Hebrews with Moses and his descendants!


WELL PUT.

Though I totally believe that ISRAEL AS THE CHOSEN PEOPLE basically has to do with 2 things.

1. GOD’S PROMISES TO HIS BUDDY, HIS FRIEND ABRAHAM

and

2. GOD’S GLORY—HIS DETERMINATION TO HAVE A CHOSEN PEOPLE THROUGH WHOM TO MAXIMALLY DEMONSTRATE HIS GLORY.

NO ONE AND NOTHING is going to mess or attempt to mess with GOD’S GLORY is EVER going to get lastingly away with it with impunity.


151 posted on 03/13/2009 6:59:39 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Thank you so much. :)
That book sounds very cool! I’ll definitely have to check that out. It sounds EXACTLY like what I was thinking about in the post I was composing as you were responding! It think we’re definitely thinking on the same wave-length here! LOL


152 posted on 03/13/2009 7:08:17 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: LibertyRocks

AMEN! BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD!

The author of

ETERNITY IN THEIR HEARTS

IS also the author of

PEACE CHILD!

A very moving true story allegory of Christ’s sacrificial life.


153 posted on 03/13/2009 7:09:50 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Lee N. Field

Outside of Christ, yes. Is that so hard?
YES IT IS...

How do you know that the Hopi’s don’t know that the Saviour is Jesus Christ? Maybe they know him by a different name, maybe they have been taught a different way...

We cannot say the Hopi’s do not know Jesus Christ just because they don’t know and understand him the way we do.


154 posted on 03/13/2009 7:10:57 PM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: Marysecretary

Amen Mary!

Thank you....


155 posted on 03/13/2009 7:12:50 PM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: Quix

Thanks, Quix. Coming to the end of my post I think my explanation turned a corner and makes more sense as to the WHYs of these coincidences. I do believe as you that Israel’s status comes from the covenant made with Abraham - so I guess that including Moses’ into that is a little “after the fact”! LOL When I brainstorm I usually end up with thoughts of situations and solutions that COULD fit, but end up dismissing them later! That doesn’t translate well when half of the brainstorming occurs while WRITING the posts! LOL


156 posted on 03/13/2009 7:12:50 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: LibertyRocks

I can readily identify with that!

LUB
LUB
LUB


157 posted on 03/13/2009 7:14:39 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: gardencatz
Well try this. The LDS and others believe Jesus came to the new world. Are the Myans and the Hopi parroting his teachings?

Oh and just where did Atlantis go?

158 posted on 03/13/2009 7:16:57 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Why?)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread444223/pg1


159 posted on 03/13/2009 7:20:05 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Why?)
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To: LibertyRocks

Ya know,

just LISTENING TO THAT ONE SHOW—HOUR 2 WITH

http://www.allnewsweb.com/page6636639.php

March 7, 2009 - Hour 2

Katherine Albrecht is a noted authority on the push for the RFID chips. The privacy violations of the chipping industry are overwhelming as Albrecht explains. Google is in on the effort to monitor everything we do. Technology today is also set to go and to become “mark of the beast” technology. http://www.antichips.comhttp://www.katherinealbrecht.com


JUST LISTENING TO THAT ONE SHOW . . .

SHOULD WAKE EVEN ASLEEP CLUELESS IDIOTS BOLT UPRIGHT WITH SWEAT DRIPPING OFF.

How anyone can be aware of such information and doubt BIBLICAL END TIMES ESCHATOLOGY is beyond me.

The only explanations that make the best sense to me are:

1. rebellion against God and willful blindness
2. satanic delusion
3. RELIGIOUS idolatry of UNTRUE systems and doctrines of man and of demons

Amazing.


160 posted on 03/13/2009 7:20:35 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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