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Mormon food bank a private welfare system
San Francisco Chronicle / sfgate.com ^ | Sunday, March 8, 2009 | Matthai Kuruvila, Chronicle Religion Writer

Posted on 03/08/2009 9:58:10 AM PDT by thecodont

Unemployed for a year and with an ailing wife at home, Mike Hammer stepped out of his truck in a Concord strip mall and walked into the heart of one of the most sophisticated private welfare systems in the country.

Here, in a plain white box of a building, Hammer and other Mormons come to get groceries - everything from produce to meats, much of which comes from Mormon-owned farms and cattle ranches.

Others come for counseling, employment help and a self-canning facility, where observant Mormons can up to a year's worth of food supplies in the event of an emergency. All services in the building, known as a Bishops' Storehouse, are intended to promote Mormon self-sufficiency.

"I'm not asking for money or somebody to do things for me," said Hammer, 36, a Brentwood father of three who carried away bread, milk, eggs, cheese, fruits and vegetables. "It's eased up finances a little bit."

The breadth and sophistication of Mormon social networks was glimpsed during the Proposition 8 campaign. But the recession and the increased demand it's putting on Mormon storehouses give a unique look into the elaborate organization of a religious group gaining influence in America.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; History; Other Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: boastalot; charity; food; foodbank; lds; mormon; prop8; selfreliance; selfsufficiency; storehouses; welfare
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1 posted on 03/08/2009 9:58:10 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

The Mormons have it right in this category......yes, they’ll help you out but you have to give back in labor.


2 posted on 03/08/2009 10:04:40 AM PDT by Lizavetta (Politicians: When they're not lying, they're stealing.)
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To: Lizavetta

I did not know that. I know some Mormons and they keep a years worth of food in their basement. Is this food in addition to that?


3 posted on 03/08/2009 10:07:11 AM PDT by roylene (Don't believe everything you think!)
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To: thecodont
so its news to san francisco that churchs help the needy? leave it to the libtards to be shocked by that - and to frame it in terms of a government program
4 posted on 03/08/2009 10:10:29 AM PDT by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: roylene

Yes it is in additions to the one year food supply, those centers are more like Food Banks and Employment Skill Centers as well as volunteer centers.

The LDS really does a great job of organizing and then actually implementing those things.


5 posted on 03/08/2009 10:12:56 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: roylene
"I did not know that. I know some Mormons and they keep a years worth of food in their basement. Is this food in addition to that?

Generally, what is stored in their homes is non-perishable stuff. The Food Bank offers fresh produce, eggs, etc., that obviously would not store for long periods of time. The system requires members to put in time stocking shelves, loading/unloading, perhaps even with the harvesting or acquisition, office work, building maintenance, etc. I remember my neighbors in Utah when I was a kid, going to help out on the church farm, or going to assist at the center.

6 posted on 03/08/2009 10:14:35 AM PDT by redhead (Don't look at ME! I voted for SARAH!)
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To: redhead

I’m willing to be that in the event of world wide disaster devestating the human race, the last survivors will be Mormans.


7 posted on 03/08/2009 10:17:46 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Lizavetta; thecodont

Marvin Olasky’s, “The Tragedy of Compassion in America” describes in great detail the informal social network that took care of the poor before it became “the government’s job” to do so.

I highly recommend it, as it’s got a log of facts in it that are useful for brain-slapping liberals (just made that one up- the mental equivalent of a bitch-slap).


8 posted on 03/08/2009 10:18:57 AM PDT by George Smiley (They're not drinking the Kool-Aid any more. They're eating it straight out of the packet.)
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To: padre35

So you can go there to get a job too, not just free food? A job that pays? Or is it a volunteer job you are expected to do for free in exchange for the free food?

Do you have to be a mormon to donate or get work there? or get food there?


9 posted on 03/08/2009 10:46:24 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: George Smiley

THe problem is, the government does it for the power. NOt for the good will and compassion.


10 posted on 03/08/2009 10:48:42 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: George Smiley; Lizavetta
Marvin Olasky’s, “The Tragedy of Compassion in America” describes in great detail the informal social network that took care of the poor before it became “the government’s job” to do so.

I highly recommend it, as it’s got a log of facts in it that are useful for brain-slapping liberals (just made that one up- the mental equivalent of a bitch-slap).

Here's also a little illustration of California politics:

Oakland (9th Congressional District, D-Barbara Lee): Prime Time grocery store on Telegraph Avenue (takes WIC coupons for fresh/perishable groceries)

Concord (7th Congressional District, D-George Miller): Mormon Bishop's Storehouse in strip mall

Both cities/districts represented by Democrats, but California becomes more conservative as you move inland.

11 posted on 03/08/2009 10:50:40 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

Don’t worry, the government will declare this food hording and steal it all to redistribute it to the needy.

No need to panic people and welfare recipients, you will all get your fair share. (after the government takes what they want first)


12 posted on 03/08/2009 11:02:29 AM PDT by Chewbacca (Buy gold and silver coins to profit from the comming dollar melt down!)
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To: DugwayDuke

I disagree. There is only one group out there who would have a chance at long-term survival. The amish. They grow their own food, put it away for a year and then grow more for the next. All this without electricity.
It’s easy to buy and put food in the basement. Growing it is another matter.


13 posted on 03/08/2009 11:07:42 AM PDT by JRochelle (Don't smoke the Hopium.)
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To: JRochelle

The LDS church also has welfare farms, mainly in the West, though. And that doesn’t count farms that members own that contribute to the Bishop’s warehouse.


14 posted on 03/08/2009 11:13:14 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: sloop

“so its news to san francisco that churchs help the needy? leave it to the libtards to be shocked by that - and to frame it in terms of a government program”

Yeah, how dare they try to perform a function that should only be done by the government. /s


15 posted on 03/08/2009 11:30:36 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Hitler was a great speaker too, and HE didn't need a teleprompter.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Orson Scott Card wrote several books to this effect.


16 posted on 03/08/2009 11:31:08 AM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: thecodont

The Mormons have the best social structure of any religious organization in America. If I could give up my coffee and my occasional drink, I’d think about joining.


17 posted on 03/08/2009 12:52:39 PM PDT by Obamageddon (Birth certificate and college transcripts will be required for Federal employment, Mr. Soetero)
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To: JRochelle
The Amish and the Hutterites have the farming skills, and nobody is better at living off the grid than the Amish.

But how are they at defending against the zombies who will roam the land in a breakdown???

18 posted on 03/08/2009 12:55:21 PM PDT by Obamageddon (Birth certificate and college transcripts will be required for Federal employment, Mr. Soetero)
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To: mamelukesabre
So you can go there to get a job too, not just free food? A job that pays? Or is it a volunteer job you are expected to do for free in exchange for the free food?

+++

A bunch of good questions.

Look around here and see if it answers your questions.
http://www.providentliving.org/

19 posted on 03/08/2009 2:09:41 PM PDT by fproy2222
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To: DugwayDuke

Sad to say, but Mormons and their church probably have big crosshairs on them because of their prudence and thriftiness. In the event of a full economic collapse and 20+ percent unemployment (and we are well on our way to that) a Democrat Congress and the Obama administration would likely pass so-called anti-hoarding laws and use them to confiscate foodstuffs and other commodities from the Mormon Church and individual Mormons. Or, violent hungry people will identify and target the nearest Mormon families with the intention of looting their food supplies. No share. Just kill and take. I hope the Mormon Church has a contingency plan for dealing with these nasty scenarios.


20 posted on 03/08/2009 2:22:07 PM PDT by behzinlea
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