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Darwin conference does not speak for Vatican, says theorist
Christian Today ^ | March 7 2009 | Katherine Phan

Posted on 03/07/2009 6:46:25 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode

A leading intelligent design proponent said Friday that views expressed this week at a Darwin conference in Rome should not be confused with the Vatican's position on intelligent design and Darwinism.

Organisers of the March 3 to 7 conference, Biological Evolution: Facts and Theories, at the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome had declined to invite intelligent design speakers because they felt the theory lacked scientific merit.

Bruce Chapman, president of the Seattle-based Discovery Institute, an intelligent design think tank, said he believes the Pope remains in serious "fruitful dialogue" with intelligent design even though speakers of the conference, sponsored by a Catholic Church-related agency, may be critical of the theory.

"The views of the Pope and views of people holding the conference are not the same," Chapman told The Christian Post on Friday. "A large purpose of this conference was to criticise and trash intelligent design and try to make it seem like it's the Vatican's [point of view]. They are intentionally trying to confuse people."

He added, "Not only is the Papal household keeping its distance from this conference, the Pope has said some things friendly to intelligent design and critical of Darwinism."

The intelligent design proponent said Pope Benedict XVI was critical of evolution as a random process during the first homily he delivered. At his coronation, the Pope said, "We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution. Each of us is the result of a thought of God."

Chapman, a Roman Catholic himself, emphasised that the conference's sponsor, The Pontifical Council on Culture, is an office of the Vatican but represented neither the Vatican nor the Pope himself.

"Just because someone has money to come to Rome and have a conference doesn't mean they speak for the Catholic Church, any more than some committee in the Senate or the House can speak for the United States Government," he said.

Moreover, Chapman pointed out that the event was funded by the John Templeton Foundation, which publicly opposes intelligent design.

In an article published Thursday, the Rev Tomasz Tramfe, an official of the Pontifical Council on Culture and a Templeton representative told the Associated Press that Templeton did not place any restrictions on who was invited to speak.

"They sent us the proposal after they had most of the speakers already. We decided to make the grant in part because it is a really good speakers' list," Paul Wason, director of the Templeton Foundation's science and religion programmes, told AP.

Chapman, however, disputed the report, saying he was told by Tramfre in 2007 that it was the Templeton Foundation that prohibited scientists with views supporting intelligent design from speaking at the conference.

The restriction, according to Chapman, prevented intelligent design proponents such as Michael Behe, the Catholic author of Darwin's Black Box, from defending their views at the conference.

Chapman indicated it was not fair for organisers of the Darwin conference to allow staunch critics of intelligent design to speak while silencing a pro-intelligent design voice.

"We are calling attention to their hypocrisy," said Chapman. "You can't attack people and not allow them to defend themselves."

In their announcement of the conference last year, organisers emphasised that proponents of creationism and intelligent design would not be invited to participate.

Following the remark, the late Fr Richard John Neuhaus, editor of "First Things", criticised the way the conference organisers "lump[ed] together" creationism and intelligent design.

"They are quite distinct enterprises; the former is typically in defense of a literal reading of Genesis while the latter is a scientifically based theory of purpose or teleology in natural development," wrote Neuhaus in the December issue of the Catholic-based journal.

In an AP article on Thursday, the conference director said organisers thought the inclusion of intelligent design in the event would make dialogue "very difficult" because they did not consider it to be "a scientific perspective, nor a theological or philosophical one".

Chapman acknowledged that critics, often left-leaning journalists, cause confusion by associating intelligent design with creationism.

He said a headline by FOXNews that read "Creationists, Intelligent Design Advocates Blast Vatican for Not Inviting Them to Evolution Conference", was misleading.

"The opposite is true. We were defending the Vatican and the Catholic Church," Chapman clarified.

The Discovery Institute president went on to explain the difference between microevolution, changes that take place over time within the species, with macroevolution, the process by which one species becomes another species.

He said that while intelligent design proponents and the Catholic Church accept microevolution, he believes both reject the proposal by Darwin that unguided random chance and mutation produces new species and how it suggests life was created that way.


TOPICS: Current Events; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: catholic; darwin; evolution; id; intelligentdesign; pope; vatican
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1 posted on 03/07/2009 6:46:25 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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2 posted on 03/07/2009 6:59:30 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

ABG in any way, shape, or form.

The whole rationale behind rejecting ID is because it’s alleged to be creationism in disguise and we can’t have any of that creationism stuff.

If we accept the creation account of the Bible as true, then the rest of the Bible is true as well and that would lead to accountability and responsibility, and answering to God and a whole host of unpleasant sorts of things.

We can’t have any of that now, can we?


3 posted on 03/07/2009 7:52:27 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; allmendream; GodGunsGuts

Pope said, “We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution. Each of us is the result of a thought of God.”

Bookmarked for allmendream.


4 posted on 03/07/2009 8:03:44 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Thanks for the ping!


5 posted on 03/07/2009 9:33:28 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Genes change.


6 posted on 03/07/2009 10:34:42 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
God and Darwin Not at Odds: Vatican Conference
7 posted on 03/07/2009 3:14:35 PM PST by Varda
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Bruce Chapman, president of the Seattle-based Discovery Institute

Well that's an informed and impartial source.

8 posted on 03/07/2009 3:30:34 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ( As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities. - D)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
I think Galileophobia (and a Bibliophobia stemming from the Protestant Reformation) has pushed the Catholic Church towards an extreme accodmodation with Darwinism. I don't see the Catholic Church ever getting into this discussion other than to assure scientists and intellectuals that they don't have to believe "that primitive stuff." Meanwhile there is no reassurance given to simpler folk that they are welcome to continue believing in Genesis. It's a good thing most simple Catholics were born into the Church. Only intellectuals need apply for adult conversion these days.

"Intelligent Design" is merely another form of Theistic evolution. Only Theophobic scientists confuse it with Young Earth Creationism.

9 posted on 03/07/2009 5:05:54 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . HaShem, HaShem, Qel rachum vechannun; 'erekh 'appayim verav-chesed ve'emet!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

So Mr. Chapman has scouted out all the nefarious connections, found that the organizers of the conference all consider creation science and Intelligent Design as nothing more than pseudo-science, and is therefore convinced that, since their pockets are lined by the Templeton Foundation, this somehow proves that the views expressed at the conference on ID do not reflect “views of the Vatican” nor the views of the Pope, nor orthodox Catholic teaching.

I think Mr. Chapman would serve his Church well by studying the teachings of his Church and by listening to her leaders on this matter, rather than exerting great effort to further his own “Discovery Institute” enterprise, even though it wold probably undercut the profits of the Institute. His pocketbook might get thinner, but his soul would be enlarged…

http://www.rjgrace.com/?p=881


10 posted on 03/07/2009 7:54:05 PM PST by rjgrace09
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