Posted on 01/29/2009 5:06:59 AM PST by tcg
The Pope is preparing to offer the Traditonal Anglican Communion, a group of half a million dissident Anglicans, its own personal prelature by Rome, according to reports this morning.
History may be in the making", reports The Record. "It appears Rome is on the brink of welcoming close to half a million members of the Traditional Anglican Communion into membership of the Roman Catholic Church. Such a move would be the most historic development in Anglican-Catholic relations in the last 500 years. But it may also be a prelude to a much greater influx of Anglicans waiting on the sidelines, pushed too far by the controversy surrounding the consecration of practicing homosexual bishops, women clergy and a host of other issues."
(Excerpt) Read more at catholic.org ...
of course ! why not? so when Prince Charlies announces his kingship he will be sovreign to all believers of faith (don’t get me started:) so then hip hip & a cheerio to Charlie/s
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Do we get our churches back?
“May be,” “is preparing to,” “possibly,” “according to reports,” “?” ...
Never expect actual news reportage of things that have, like ... *happened* ... from “journalists.” It would just make you crazy.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Interesting...
This “leak” coincides with the Church Unity Octave just ended. Fr. Paul ping!
In truth, the only two differences separating the Anglicans from the Catholics has been Papal primacy, that hundreds of years ago, in very different times, was done for nationalistic reasons; and a difference, not of doctrine, but of culture.
The first difference is a debate between bishops, that can be resolved by bishops with little fanfare. But the cultural differences have value to both groups, and represent an opportunity for them as well.
In the time of the split, both Catholicism and Anglicanism were intertwined with politics and cultural dominion over their members. But this in many ways had a long term poisonous effect on both churches.
Today the Catholic church is degraded by “cultural Catholics”, especially politicians, who embrace the artificial social side of the Catholic people they represent, but utterly reject the core teachings of the church. They call themselves “Catholic”, yet they are not just secular, they are anti-Catholic, and despise the church and its teachings, while seeking to use it to keep power.
The Anglicans suffer just as much, at least in England, by being co-opted by the government, which holds their faith in contempt as well. Years ago, it was joked that when the prime minister was to appoint a new archbishop, he had a choice between a communist and a Muslim, for political reasons.
Anglicans have been humiliated for so long by the corruption within their faith, and the rejection of orthodoxy by a minority within their communion. But at the same time, outside of England they never created an “Anglican culture”, populated with pandering politicians.
So if the two reunite, in the process they would both be served by washing their hands of those who inhabit their churches to “use” them for their own purposes. The rejoined communion can then enjoy its orthodoxy unburdened by the heterodox, the atheists, and the unreformed sodomites.
It is not a grand gesture, just the insistence that to be Catholic, one does need to be Christian, and even affirm a belief in God, and interpretations as to what that means are not particularly open to debate or Hegelian synthesis.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm
I see you did...
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Yup! *\;-) I was pinged to both.
As an ex-Episcopalian, I have always said that we ought to trade the short-haired mean 'sisters', all the Father Strum-a-Tunes, the lavender mob, the Maryknollers, and any Jesuits that won't publicly subscribe to the Creed and the Catechism, to the Episcopalians in exchange for any faithful Christians still remaining.
Then everybody would be happy, and Christians could be Christians without being bothered by the lunatics.
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I’ll be interested to see how they handle the married bishops in TAC. Will they be grandfathered with the proviso that future bishops in the Prelature be celibate? Or will there be an ongoing exemption? Even the Orthodox require celibacy for bishops. Of course many of the apostles were apparently married, although it is unclear if they lived chaste lives after their ordination...
Interesting with the Unity thing, isn’t it?
I doubt that the married bishops will be grandfathered in.
Just relating to the Orthodox where a priest may be married, but in being married he more or less forfeits the bishopric office.
The proper response from the TAC bishops is that they would rather be priests in a Christian church than bishops in a pseudo-Christian one. The proper response to that from Rome would be to name the TAC Primate as a cardinal, and dispense him from the requirement of being ordained a bishop, as they did for Cardinal Dulles.
FYI, the TAC has nothing to do with Prince Charles. It’s a group of traditional Anglicans that broke away from the official Anglican church in the ‘70s, with the head of the group being an Archbishop in Australia.
:) thank you for providing me the facts
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