[My hearts in London - Everett]

"Your church and its elders regard what happened in the Garden of Eden as “The Wise choice”, and you’ll pardon me for thinking that Eve made anything BUT a wise choice.

It was Sin, plain and simple - for which Adam and Eve were cast out of the garden, and for which all mankind has suffered consequences ever since."

Some quotes from their own documents:

*Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy (11 Nephi 2:25).

*Adam deliberately and wisely chose (to touch the forbidden tree) and partook of the fruit (Talmage, DC, p. 65)

*Adam cried, "Because of my transgression my eyes are opened, and in this life I shall have joy" (Pearl of Great Price, Moses 5:10-11)

*We ought to consider the fall of our first parents as one of the great steps to external exaltation and happiness. (Mormon Catechism)

*We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression. (Articles of Faith, 2)

[Elsie]

Some quotes from their own documents:

How DARE you do that!

I hope you know that we get REAL upset if what you point to is not surrounded by a BUNCH of other stuff.

You make it sound SO important when you snip and EMPHSIZE the words!

--MormonDude(When would be a good time...)

[Stourme]

*We ought to consider the fall of our first parents as one of the great steps to external exaltation and happiness. (Mormon Catechism)

What exactly is the umm..."Mormon Catechism". I've been a member for 25 yrs and have never once heard that term.