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To: vladimir998
Not in the way St. Paul is using it in Romans 3. He clearly refers to circumcision. Circumcision was a ceremonial law and not one of the Ten Commandments. Christ Himself said we must keep the commandments of His Father. I trust Christ and Paul more than I trust you.

You trust Paul in Chap three but NOT in chapter seven??? In seven he says the law is the moral law...The Ten Commandments...And here is clarification...

Gal 5:3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

The WHOLE law, inclusive...If you think you are justified by doing something, you are fallen from grace...Simple as that...

You pick a single verse out of one chapter...And try to use that for your doctrine and dogma

That's not the way you study scripture...Compare scripture with scripture and you will get God's interpretation...

Hey, I just noticed something very telling, maybe...Look at dogma spelled backwards...AM GOD...Very interesting...

128 posted on 01/03/2009 4:27:15 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool

You wrote:

“You trust Paul in Chap three but NOT in chapter seven???”

I trust him in both chapter and all chapters. I agree with him on all doctrinal points. You don’t. He taught that we cooperate with God. Do you agree with him or not? Let me guess. You’re not going to even touch on that subject, right? You’re going to skip over it like you never lost on that point even though you did.

“In seven he says the law is the moral law...The Ten Commandments...And here is clarification...”

And he only supports what I have been saying all along:

“Gal 5:3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.”

See? Those who participate in the ceremonial law - that’s the body of Mosaic Law in question.

“Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.”

And no one here - not you, nor me - is claiming to be justified by the law, any law.

I was right all along and everything St. Paul said just backs up everything I’ve said on this issue. The Mosaic Law is of no avail in salvation for a Christian. And I know of no Catholic who claims otherwise. You’ll probably ignore that AGAIN. Just like you ignored the FACT that the Bible says - more than once - that we must cooperate with God.

“The WHOLE law, inclusive...If you think you are justified by doing something, you are fallen from grace...Simple as that...”

And who here thinks they are justified by anything they do? Not me. Are you claiming that you believe that? I certainly have never believed it. Of course, like so many anti-Catholics, you’ll probably just ignore the fact I said that and blithely go one claiming or insinuating otherwise. That’s what you’ve done so far.

“You pick a single verse out of one chapter...And try to use that for your doctrine and dogma”

No. I focused on a verse that destroyed your claims and arguments. You can’t do that to me or my arguments because I agree entirely with the Bible whereas you apparently don’t.

“That’s not the way you study scripture...Compare scripture with scripture and you will get God’s interpretation...”

Which you apparently can’t get because you ignore those verses that disagree with your sectarian views. A great example of that is where you say the Bible doesn’t teach me must cooperate with God, when in fact the Bible says the exact opposite in 1 Cor. 3:9 and 2 Cor. 6:1.

“Hey, I just noticed something very telling, maybe...Look at dogma spelled backwards...AM GOD...Very interesting...”

What is very interesting is how you studiously avoided the verses that prove we must cooperate with God.


129 posted on 01/03/2009 4:48:09 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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