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To: unspun
Let me get this straight. You post an article which attempts to discredit the influence of Christianity in America's history and would propagate the idea that being free means more and more people naturally develop a distaste for Christianity -- and you do this in the name of religious tolerance?

That would let you fit right in, among our leftist universities and their leftist professors.

From reading this thread it shows that religious tolerance is only for those who are in lock step with the Traditon of Men and to that extreme are bo better than the far leftist!

They too only accept those who are in lock step with their brand!

Would you not say a true Christian strives to...

Col 3
12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.

16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

Gal 5
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

24 And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

It seems many here have no interest why prominent Americans were disgusted with the creeds of Christendom, only that their traditional ox was gored, but is it the words and commandments that our Savior taught us to live by?

John 13:
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

42 posted on 12/26/2008 6:08:45 AM PST by restornu (Gardeners have roots and Cowboys have boots!: smile)
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To: restornu
From reading this thread it shows that religious tolerance is only for those who are in lock step with the Traditon of Men and to that extreme are bo better than the far leftist!

Huh.

I haven't seen such intolerance in this thread. Maybe I'll have to look through it again.

It seems many here have no interest why prominent Americans were disgusted with the creeds of Christendom, only that their traditional ox was gored, but is it the words and commandments that our Savior taught us to live by?

What creeds are those? Please refer. Thank you for listing some of them, but those are ones you seem to think well of, not ones you and apparently Joseph Smith haven't thought well of. Are you referring to things that Christians believe that are based in immutable Scripture instead of the Book of Mormon and the LDS doctrines tht have changed so much through the years?

From what I've seen, Bible believing Christians are quite tolerant, by and large, toward people who either do or do not believe what Jesus said about Himself and what the Holy Spirit inspired to be written about Him (that He is God Himself, revealed to man, also as a man, one in the Trinity).

Christians, however, tend to be intolerant of "a different Gospel" as the apostles strongly warned against. Personally, I pray that followers of Josepth Smith believe in Christ and His atonement and worship Him so truly that their other beliefs against the Word of God are not held against them.

Sometimes, some/many get angry with those who disagree with critically important and foundational truths about God and man. Christ, Paul, and the Johns did, too. But, hopefully, we follow the only begotten Christ's example and seek to save the lost and those who are falling into error, as the Word implores, instead of harboring any malice. Even so, that is uncomfortable stuff in some ways, to be sure.

48 posted on 12/26/2008 7:30:42 AM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: restornu; unspun; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; ...
From reading this thread it shows that religious tolerance is only for those who are in lock step with the Traditon of Men and to that extreme are bo better than the far leftist!

Those of us who are Christian, are, "in lock step with the traditions of men (A favorite slam at non-mormons by some posters here). Mormons consider themselves to be the only ones "blessed" with what they call "God's church" and are SO more well-informed as to God's wishes.

That gives them, from their high and mighty moral pinnacle (in their minds) the right to condemn those who know Joseph Smith to have been a charlatan, and to baptize the dead of the world into their number to "give them the chance at salvation"...the mormon way.

These are the same people that insists on comparing Mitt Romney to Ronald Reagan as a conservative.

53 posted on 12/26/2008 7:38:07 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (The "new" Camelot?? Jackie "O" is spinning in her grave....)
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To: restornu
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
By this shall all men know that ye are false prophets...
 

 
 
 
 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
 

 
 
Galatians 1:6-9
 6.  I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--
 7.  which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
 8.  But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
 9.  As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
 
 
2 Corinthians 11:12-15
 12.  And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.
 13.  For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
 14.  And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
 15.  It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

 
 
 

119 posted on 12/26/2008 3:42:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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