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Theological Word Of The Day: Marcion of Pontus
TWOTD ^ | December 17, 2008

Posted on 12/20/2008 2:44:08 AM PST by Gamecock

Marcion of Pontus

Referred to by Polycarp as “the first born of Satan,” Marcion was one of the most famous heretics of the early church and the leader of the sect known as the “Marcionites.” Marcion is known for his Gnostic leanings which he integrated into a version of Christianity. Marcion rejected the entire Old Testament, believing the God of the Hebrew Scriptures was full of wrath and hatred. In the New Testament, Marcion only accepted a modified version of the Gospel of Luke (excluding the birth narratives) and ten of Paul’s epistles. Tertullian said that he was the first to separate the Old Testament and the New Testament. This became known as the Marcion canon and served as a motivation for the church to deal more precisely with the issue of the canon of Scripture. Marcion was docetic with regard to be view of Christ, denying his full humanity.


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1 posted on 12/20/2008 2:44:09 AM PST by Gamecock
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2 posted on 12/20/2008 2:45:01 AM PST by Gamecock ("...Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles" and both to Americans.)
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Marcion quite interestingly kept only the Pauline Epistles and rejected the entire OT. So, he was more a follower of Paul than of Christ (and of course he added in his own sole interpretations). With his thoughts that the God fo the NT is different from the God of the OT, he created his own religion. His teachings were echoed in the Albigensians and others


3 posted on 12/20/2008 4:06:13 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: wmfights; HarleyD

Marcion’s thoughts about the corruption of humanity shows how we can all misinterpret the word of God on our own.


4 posted on 12/20/2008 4:10:44 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: Gamecock

Uh Gamecock, that’s more like three words :)


5 posted on 12/20/2008 7:28:29 AM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: Gamecock

Whenever I hear a Christian set God’s Law at opposition to His Grace, I hear echos of Marcion.


6 posted on 12/20/2008 8:29:35 AM PST by RJR_fan (Winners and lovers shape the future. Whiners and losers TRY TO PREDICT IT.)
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To: Cronos; HarleyD
Marcion’s thoughts about the corruption of humanity shows how we can all misinterpret the word of God on our own.

What a terribly flawed reading of history.

If nothing else, Marcion serves as an example of how Christians led by the Holy Spirit exercised discernment. At that time there was no state run church with the power of the state to enforce it's will. Yet Christians were clearly able to see what was Scripture and what wasn't.

Christians knew there were books of Scripture missing from Marcion's canon and that his understanding was flawed. They didn't need an arm of the state to burn people at the stake to figure it out.

7 posted on 12/20/2008 9:16:34 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support Senateconservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

There were multitudes who followed Marcion and he did seduce many away from orthodoxy. The Church led by the Holy Spirit, ended Marcionism.


8 posted on 12/20/2008 10:00:32 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: RJR_fan
Whenever I hear a Christian set God’s Law at opposition to His Grace, I hear echos of Marcion.

Do you mean those Christians who set Law above Grace?

9 posted on 12/20/2008 3:06:35 PM PST by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: Cronos
His teachings were echoed in the Albigensians and others

I am not sure what you mean by echoed. Are you saying that there is some historical continuity between Marcion and the Albigensians? Or do you mean that there are similarities between the two when you compare them?

10 posted on 12/20/2008 3:12:49 PM PST by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: Cronos

***There were multitudes who followed Marcion and he did seduce many away from orthodoxy. The Church led by the Holy Spirit, ended Marcionism.***

Incorrect. The Church merely damped it down. Many of the children of the Reformation are Marcionists. The best friend of my wife (a conservative Church of Christ bible thumping preacher’s daughter) told us that the only verses that we needed out of the Bible were Luke, Acts, and Paul.

Calvinism is largely recycled Marcion. The WCF certainly indicates a largely Marcionite bias.


11 posted on 12/20/2008 3:17:13 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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The best friend of my wife (a conservative Church of Christ bible thumping preacher’s daughter) told us that the only verses that we needed out of the Bible were Luke, Acts, and Paul.

Which sounds like a very extreme form of dispensationalism.

Calvinism is largely recycled Marcion.

Which shows you're not familiar with Calvin.

12 posted on 12/20/2008 5:26:59 PM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: Lee N. Field

***Calvinism is largely recycled Marcion.

Which shows you’re not familiar with Calvin.***

Actually I am. The largely Paulian proofs of Reformed theology, backed up by OT proofs comprise approximately 95% of the Scriptural backing of Reformed theology. The Gospels are mostly ignored.


13 posted on 12/20/2008 5:45:44 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: stripes1776

I mean that Albigensians derived their teachings from Marcion — heresies re-arise like bad dreams over and over again.


14 posted on 12/20/2008 7:56:13 PM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: Lee N. Field

Not really, most Calvinist “teachings” are focused on just Pauline epistles.


15 posted on 12/20/2008 7:57:30 PM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: Lee N. Field

Also, Calvinism believes in a very gnostic idea of total depravity — viz. that the world created by God is depraved or distorted. from there it is but a small step to state that since the created world is depraved, perhaps it was a demiurge who created it, not God and that Jesus was the Son of the “higher” God, not the demiurge. That ties in witht he ultradispensationalism (exclusive Pauline) nature that most Calvinistic thought seems to believe in


16 posted on 12/20/2008 8:01:30 PM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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