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Eucharist kneeling request sparks controversy [Catholic Caucus]
WCR ^ | December 15, 2008 | DEBORAH GYAPONG

Posted on 12/12/2008 6:48:14 AM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 12/12/2008 6:48:14 AM PST by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 12/12/2008 6:49:08 AM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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>>Parishioner Toddy Kehoe told the Citizen, “Is that all they have to think about? I don’t see the Catholic Church as doing loving things.

“I don’t see them as the caring community they should be. It isn’t whether you stand or kneel.”<<

If Our Lord Jesus Christ appeared right there standing on the Altar, how concerned would this dude be about “community”?

Well He is there. Right there, on the Altar. Apparently, this man has no clue about that.


3 posted on 12/12/2008 6:52:59 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom

I don’t see how valid authority is not seen as “loving”.


4 posted on 12/12/2008 6:55:39 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: NYer

...if they don’t like it the Episcopal/Unitarian churches are right down the street...


5 posted on 12/12/2008 7:01:40 AM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: netmilsmom

WWJD? Would He care? Hel-loooow, padre - get a life.


6 posted on 12/12/2008 7:05:24 AM PST by QBFimi2 (Ve are the New World Order; ve bring to the world dis-order. Spike Jones, 1943.)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

oh how stiff necked His people have become. I wish I could receive on my knees like I used to. We have become so full of pride, even the smallest amount of humility seems to cause strife. get over it Catholics, or find another Church! We ARE WHO WE ARE, and we are the Church of Christ. I can’t imagine any catholic arguing against kneeling at the time of consecration, except those who do NOT realize it is not merely a symbol because of poor catechesis.


7 posted on 12/12/2008 7:05:36 AM PST by wombtotomb (since its "above his paygrade", why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: NYer
Prendergast had informed his priests of the change last August, and said “a number” were not happy about it. Some expressed concerns that the archdiocesan liturgical commission was not consulted.

It's about time that bishops started showing their priests who's in charge!

8 posted on 12/12/2008 7:07:05 AM PST by pgkdan
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Others have objected to being told what to do, though the Citizen had trouble finding people to comment publicly.

Translation: we had to hunt everywhere we could think of for days and days to find Toddy Kehoe, who hasn't been to church in years.

Comment: If you don't like being told what to do, Toddy my boy,

You'll fit right in!

9 posted on 12/12/2008 7:07:36 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary - recess appointment))
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To: QBFimi2

>>WWJD? Would He care? Hel-loooow, padre - get a life.<<

Do you believe in the trinity?


10 posted on 12/12/2008 7:09:16 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: NYer

I have been attending the Trinidine Mass on Sundays.

No shorts, no flip-flops, no shaking hands, no kids running around and eating, no laypersons distributing Holy Communion.

Just an hour of celebration and worship of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass as I remember it.

What a joy!


11 posted on 12/12/2008 7:09:54 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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We have the same thing at our Very traditional NO Holy Mass.

We kneel. A lot.


12 posted on 12/12/2008 7:13:10 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: QBFimi2
WWJD? Would He care? Hel-loooow, padre - get a life.
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WWJD?

Jesus was obedient. He was so obedient that he atoned for our sins. He asked his Father if the cup could be passed, and when it wasn't he obeyed.

If Christ could be humble and obedient, I would think Catholics would be more than willing to be humble and obedient to their bishop's righteous **invitation**.

I greatly admire Catholics who practice **all** of their religion. I wish we had a nation filled to the brim with them.

13 posted on 12/12/2008 7:16:24 AM PST by wintertime
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To: QBFimi2

I certainly think the Christ would notice you don’t recognize who HE is!

I don’t know about you, but I sure don’t feel worthy to STAND in the presence of the Lord Almighty!!!


14 posted on 12/12/2008 7:21:25 AM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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On the one hand, these changes are so infinitesimally small, one would have to be a complete lardhead to spend time objecting to them.

On the other hand, one has to really wonder about Church Fathers who spend even one second of their day pondering such things, while at the same time you look around the world and (pardon the expression) Rome is Burning!

15 posted on 12/12/2008 7:26:25 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Prendergast had informed his priests of the change last August, and said “a number” were not happy about it. Some expressed concerns that the archdiocesan liturgical commission was not consulted.

The Church isn't a democracy. Get over it. I don't get why people have a problem with kneeling. My archdiocese never changed from it being the norm. Those who don't kneel are considered the oddballs.

16 posted on 12/12/2008 7:27:29 AM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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To: netmilsmom

These quotes are simply quotes for ignorant Catholics, and sadly there are tons of them out there these days who don’t know the very basics of their faith.

You kneel during the consecration and should be kneeling the entire time once it occurs until the Eucharists have been placed away. During that time you are in the presence of Jesus himself according to Catholic doctrine and do not be kneeling unless physically unable to do so is disrespectful.

Its really nothing more difficult than that.


17 posted on 12/12/2008 7:30:05 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: netmilsmom

These quotes are simply quotes for ignorant Catholics, and sadly there are tons of them out there these days who don’t know the very basics of their faith.

You kneel during the consecration and should be kneeling the entire time once it occurs until the Eucharists have been placed away. During that time you are in the presence of Jesus himself according to Catholic doctrine and to not be kneeling unless physically unable to do so is disrespectful.

Its really nothing more difficult than that.


18 posted on 12/12/2008 7:31:09 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: pgkdan

I think some of our Bishops are as wishy washy as our political head honcho in D.C.

Hoo-ray for the “radicals” among us!


19 posted on 12/12/2008 7:34:08 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: HamiltonJay

Spot on!


20 posted on 12/12/2008 7:39:03 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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