Ping!
>>Parishioner Toddy Kehoe told the Citizen, Is that all they have to think about? I dont see the Catholic Church as doing loving things.
I dont see them as the caring community they should be. It isnt whether you stand or kneel.<<
If Our Lord Jesus Christ appeared right there standing on the Altar, how concerned would this dude be about “community”?
Well He is there. Right there, on the Altar. Apparently, this man has no clue about that.
It's about time that bishops started showing their priests who's in charge!
Translation: we had to hunt everywhere we could think of for days and days to find Toddy Kehoe, who hasn't been to church in years.
Comment: If you don't like being told what to do, Toddy my boy,
You'll fit right in!
I have been attending the Trinidine Mass on Sundays.
No shorts, no flip-flops, no shaking hands, no kids running around and eating, no laypersons distributing Holy Communion.
Just an hour of celebration and worship of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass as I remember it.
What a joy!
On the other hand, one has to really wonder about Church Fathers who spend even one second of their day pondering such things, while at the same time you look around the world and (pardon the expression) Rome is Burning!
Just a question for my Catholic friends on FR: When kneeling is ‘required’ as part of the mass, are those who have knee problems or problems getting back up from the a kneeling position exempted? (I assume so, but was just curious as to whether my assumption was correct.)
I attended Mass at the Cathedral in the Sault Ste. Marie Diocese on the 33rd Sunday in Ordinary Time, and we knelt as the article describes, so I guess some dioceses in Canada are ahead of the others.
It was less kneeling than I am used to at my home parish in the Saginaw Diocese in Michigan, but it is the posture agreed upon by the Canadian bishops, so fine by me.
Interesting controversy. For what its worth, which is likely plenty, the 20th Canon of the 1st Ecumenical Council at Nicea states:
“On the Lord’s Day and at Pentecost all must pray standing and not kneeling.”
Radical, left wing, disrespectful notion from 325 AD. :)
Could we say this is something of a metaphor for the attitude of many to not only Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament but also His Church? A metaphor for the refusal to accept Catholic teaching and dogma?
A symbol of pride perhaps? Rebellion? Kneeling is the position of the supplicant......the humble man.
If it isn’t whether you stand or kneel, then you would not want to create a big stink about being asked to kneel, now would you?
And he is right, it is NOT about whether you stand or kneel - it is whether you will worship the Lord God Almighty in accordance with the leadership He has lovingly given to you as a loving father-figure with authority, aka your bishop.
If it isn’t about whether you stand or kneel, then why have so many parishes chosen to demonstrate defiance by arbitrarily deciding to stand in defiance of long-held practice and norm that everyone was happily following?
I was in a parish where we were forced to stand instead of kneel. First we were scolded as being so stupid and immature that we knelt, then we were threatened that we were being disobedient and sinful by kneeling in accordance with Church law but in defiance of the local priest. Then we ignored that, the preist would scold us DURING THE CONSECRATION demanding that we stand.
And if it isn’t about whether we stand or kneel, why was my family scolded for kneeling during the consecration (in accordance with Church law but apparently in defiance of the unbekwnonst-to-us “law” of the local priest) when we went to a small daily Mass in a new town (where we lived temporarily)?
Sure. Its not about whether we stand or kneel.