Posted on 11/16/2008 12:22:03 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
Since the election I've been asked a number of times to comment on the likelihood that Mr. Obama could be the anti-Christ. Let me begin by saying that having been elected President he's Mr. Obama now, not just Obama. As for him being the anti-Christ I've discouraged that thought because I don't believe it's time for the anti-Christ to be revealed yet. But apart from that there's no Biblical reason I can find that would absolutely disqualify him. And based on the things we know about the anti-Christ there's a fit in several important places. The anti-Christ will have to burst on the scene quickly and powerfully to accomplish so much in the little time he has, so maybe he'll need a head start. If that's the case, maybe Mr. Obama is on his way to becoming the anti-Christ. Let's find out.
We know that the anti-Christ will be a descendant of the people who made up the Roman Empire in Biblical times (Daniel 9:26), and he'll arrive on the world scene as a peace maker (Daniel 8:25). He won't be part of the world's powerful elite at the beginning of his career (Daniel 7:8) but will rise up among them to eventually surpass them and become the leader of the entire world. (Rev. 13:7-8)
He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power. (Daniel 8:25)
This means that he'll base his success on a lie, misrepresenting himself and his intentions, but people will want to believe him so badly that they'll disregard his inconsistencies until it's too late to stop him. Initially he'll seem successful, but just when they're saying “Peace and safety”, destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains to a pregnant woman, and they won't escape (1 Thes. 5:3).
Deja Vu All Over Again?
Some of us remember when Jimmy Carter was elected President of the US. The country was fed up with Washington and even though he had no national leadership experience, we elected him because he was an outsider who promised change. He said he would never lie to us, but after the election it turned out that he had. He had misrepresented his background and didn't have the ability he needed when it came to governing. He said he was Christian and even orchestrated a land for peace deal between Israel and Egypt, but he proved to be anti-Israel. Soon we had a crisis in finance with interest rates at 20%, an energy crisis with our first gas shortages, and an administration that didn't know how to work with Congress to fix things. The Iranians captured our embassy and held our citizens hostage. Thankfully he lasted only one term.
Mr. Obama could easily turn out to be just another Jimmy Carter, and if so America will suffer through the next four years and then he'll be gone. But if he continues to be successful in convincing people all around the world that he's on the right track even though everything seems to be falling apart, it could be a different story.
If my calculations are correct, American Christians have just voted in our last presidential elections and won't be here to see if Mr. Obama turns out to be the anti-Christ or not. But someone with a lot more experience in accurately predicting the future has some interesting insight into the next few years. His name is Gerald Celente, CEO of Trends Research Institute, and he's renowned the world over for his accuracy in predicting future world and economic events. He accurately predicted the 1987 Stock market crash, the Fall of the Soviet Union, the 1997 Asian currency collapse, the sub-prime mortgage crisis, and one year before the fact predicted what he said would become known as the Panic of 2008, saying that giants would tumble to their deaths, which is what we've just seen in the fall of several of our oldest and biggest financial firms, and with the big three auto makers teetering on the brink.
(You can check his track record for yourself at www.trendsresearch.com )
Celente is now forecasting revolution in America, food riots and tax rebellions - all within four years, cautioning that putting food on the table will be a more pressing concern than buying Christmas gifts by 2012.
According to his recent Fox News interview, called “Predicting Obama's Impact” (posted on YouTube on Nov. 10, 2008), by 2012 America will have become an undeveloped nation. There will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and holidays will be more about obtaining food than gifts.
“We’re going to see the end of the retail Christmas….we’re going to see a fundamental shift take place….putting food on the table is going to be more important that putting gifts under the Christmas tree,” said Celente, adding that the situation would be “worse than the great depression”.
“America’s going to go through a transition the likes of which no one is prepared for,” he said, noting that people’s refusal to acknowledge that America was even in a recession highlights how big a problem denial is in being ready for the true scale of the crisis.
All this comes from a man with an international reputation for being right and whose continued success depends on it. If he's right now like he has been so often in the past, then the next four years will be worse than the Carter Administration ever was, rather than the launching platform for a coming world leader.
(By the way, please take note that this is another independent expert pointing to the year 2012 as one of cataclysmic significance in bringing about the End of the Age.)
There's a wild card that I hesitate to throw in here because I don't even want to think about it. But if it's true it could easily cause the problems that Mr. Celente is predicting. For some time now certain people, Republican and Democrat alike, have been saying that Mr. Obama isn't legally qualified to be President because he's not a natural born citizen of the US. I won't go into the details but the point is that he could make this all go away by producing a legitimate birth certificate, something he's been unwilling to do. A federal court has given him until Dec. 1, 2008 to do so, and if he does then the Electoral College vote will be certified and he'll be the next President. But lawsuits in a dozen or so states have been or are being filed to prevent the certification until Mr. Obama proves he's qualified. If the courts throw out the election who knows what could happen.
What Time Is It?
As many of you know, I've said that all of the End Times prophecies including the 2nd Coming could be fulfilled as early as 2018. I base this on the Lord's promise that the generation being born at the time of the first End Times signs would still be alive when “all these things have happened” (Matt. 24:34) Most scholars view the re-birth of Israel in 1948 as the first of the end times signs. With an average lifespan being 70 years, according to Psalm 90:10, everything will have to come to pass by 2018. If the Rapture only just precedes the 70th Week of Daniel it could come 7 years earlier, in 2011, which is 2 ½ years from now, about half way through Mr. Obama's first term, assuming the election stands.
So here's how to tell if he'll become the anti-Christ or not. If it seems like he can do no wrong, if people feel safe and it's beginning to look like there'll be peace in our time, then there's a good chance he's the one. But if Gerald Celente's predictions are coming to pass, and the world's in worse shape than ever, then he's just another Jimmy Carter, an inexperienced outsider who had no business running for president in the first place, let alone being elected.
Time will tell, but either way we can look for some difficult days ahead for the Church. Because either way we are in the final phase of post-Christian America and can expect the world around us to become more and more anti-Christian. And if the economy continues to self-destruct it will be just that much worse.
But whether Mr. Obama turns out to be the anti-Christ or not is really irrelevant to the Church. Our job in the short time we have left is to get ready to move to our new home. That means breaking our ties with the old one. Anything that can't be put to kingdom use is excess baggage to us now. We should be sending whatever treasure we have up ahead. We should stop worrying about our career, our retirement fund, our lifestyle, and all those other worldly distractions and put all our resources to work for the benefit of our next life. After all it's the real one. And one way or the other, this one is already gone.
Whether you believe in a pre-trib rapture or not you know my advice is sound. After all I'm not just making this up. Everything I 've been saying is straight from the Lord's own mouth. He's the one who said to quit storing up treasure on Earth where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal. He's the one who said to store up treasure in Heaven instead. (Matt. 6:19-20) And He's the one who said not to worry about our lives here but seek first His Kingdom and His righteousness and he'll provide all our needs. (Matt. 6:31-34) So whether you think we're leaving here soon or not, it's time to pay attention to what He's been telling us. No matter how much time you think we have, you can almost hear the footsteps of the Messiah. 11-15-08
I believe that Obama will completely abandon Israel and when he does, God will finally turn His back on America. We were the last nation on earth who stood side-by-side with Israel and when Obama throws her to the Islamic wolves, it will be a fulfillment of the prophecy that all nations will turn against Israel, leaving only God to rescue her during the attempted attack on her outlined in Ezekiel 38 and 39.
No, I don't think Obama is the Antichrist but he has been put in a position to hammer the final nail in the coffin of the USA.
Anti-christ will be a Jew!
Raulm Emmanuel?...
Do you consider the Bible foolishness or just those who believe it?
Please consider the possibility that though Obama isn’t the Antichrist(*), that if he was, or even if he just claimed to be, it would not diminish him in the eyes of his followers.
(*) There is some disagreement as to whether Antichrist is capitalized.
Even more so, they might actually support him more. Be thrilled that he was a creature of power and substance who would smite those they hate. And most importantly, who would give them what they *want*.
Do you for a moment think that many of them would have a problem replacing the cross in their church with a statue of Obama?
“Barack Obama’s nomination is so extraordinary that another chapter could be added to the Bible to chronicle its significance.”
— Jesse Jackson, Jr.
So what does this mean? Make a list of not the concepts that the real Antichrist would want, but what that would mean in terms of the real laws we have today. That is, what is the Antichrist’s political platform?
Right off the bat, the Antichrist would almost certainly be totally pro-abortion. He would be thrilled with the idea of slaughtering innocent lives. The same with euthanasia, he would be all in favor of it. But here’s a zinger. In his Audacity of Hope book, Obama actually supports the death penalty as well! In other words, he is pro-death across the board.
So death, death and more death.
So what other issues would the Antichrist support?
Oddly enough, he doesn’t want war, because he wants to rule all the world. If he wants a war, it is for genocidal or murderous reasons against a group he hates, not his followers fighting other of his followers.
As well, he wants total government control over everything, all responsive to just his voice. Valerie Jarrett, Co-chair of Barack Obama’s Transition Team, came right out and said that he intends to “rule”. Of course that what his followers want as well.
So the question is open: is Obama’s platform the same as the Antichrist’s? And if so, unless he is truly supernatural, which is awful hard to tell, will he be remembered as “an Antichrist”, if not “The Antichrist.”
How would one (non-Jew) go about fighting alongside the Israelis when it hits the fan? What a way to go! I’m serious.
If you know Christ as your Savior you have nothing to fear from what is coming to the earth. The Tribulation is a time of God's judgment and wrath upon a world that has rejected His Son and His gift of eternal life and is now worshiping Satan in the form of the Antichrist. God promises those who love Him and know Him personally and who have a personal relationship with Him will not have to go through the time of judgment that will be visited on the earth. He promises that He will get His people out before He sends judgment.
Don't confuse Satanic wrath with God's wrath; God never promised us that we would be protected from Satan's destructive activities on the earth, but He has promised that those who have chosen to accept His Son as Savior will not go through the wrath that he has for those who hate Him and reject Hem.
You need to know that God has a plan for your life and He has all eternity to work that plan out. Go on and live your life, always in obedience to Him, and leave the consequences to Him. If you know Him as your Lord you can be assured that He is in control of not only what is going on in the world, but what happens to you as well. Everything will work out, and God has everything under control.
You can sleep well at night and you don't have to worry.
How do you know that God has called you to do that?
...I’m apt to question anything I read on FR, so much of the crap is partisan, but, not in any position to dispute anything. I’m all ears and eyes, to be informed about this issue...
Smart man!
...Smart, nahhhh, just inquisitive, and I may not be a man...
No, what cost the election for Republicans is rino candidates like mcinsane.
Inquisitive? Who was it that said, “Seek and you shall find”, sounds like you’re on the right track to me.
Just curious!
I remember that one beast is from the sea (i.e. the gentiles--Rev 13:1) and one is from the earth (Israel--13:11). However, I have heard diverse opinions on the actual lineage of the AC. And considering that Obama is a cousin of Dick Cheney...he might also be Jewish by ancestry (not that Dick is Jewish...just pointing to the diversity of all our ancestry).
Well, that's certainly hedging your bet.
LOL... getting back at conspiracy theory: anyone can fake dying, even actors do it on the big screen, not that I’m saying O might do it.
Sorry to all CA FR: hmmm... I heard this from Fox News by the mayor of San Francisco: ... Hell on earth ... WTF?
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