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In 7 states, Catholics make up more than 30% of the population. Obama captured all 7 of those states on Election Day. In 8 states, Catholics account for less than 5% of the population. Seven of those states swung for McCain, and the 8th, North Carolina, is still listed as "too close to call" as I write this analysis.

To be sure, America's Catholic population is heavily concentrated in states that have a liberal political tilt. But is that a coincidence? Are those states hotbeds of liberalism despite the heavy Catholic presence, or because of it?

....Among Catholic voters who attend Mass weekly, McCain won majority support: 54- 45%. Among those who do not attend weekly Mass, the margin for Obama was an overwhelming 61- 37%. Thus Obama drew his support from inactive Catholics. And unfortunately, most American Catholics are inactive.

1 posted on 11/06/2008 6:36:40 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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The free lunch. It’s that simple.


2 posted on 11/06/2008 6:37:33 AM PST by Daveinyork
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It’s really not that hard to figure out. They love the Democrat Party more than they love Jesus. Otherwise they would never vote for someone who supports killing God’s babies even after they are born as Obama has done.


3 posted on 11/06/2008 6:41:07 AM PST by kittymyrib
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“....Among Catholic voters who attend Mass weekly, McCain won majority support: 54- 45%.”

Thank you.


4 posted on 11/06/2008 6:41:27 AM PST by Enosh (†)
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that “catholic” would vote for a man who voted -twice- for government sponsored post-abortion infanticide- is appalling

The Church woke up for this election (perhaps spurred earlier by Pelosi’s very public manipulation of Church docrine to spin abortion rights) but too little too late

I hope they keep their courage to speak out


5 posted on 11/06/2008 6:41:41 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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Abortion is not an isolated issue. Lackadaisical American Catholics are not ignoring Church leadering on this issue alone, but on the entire range of Catholic teaching. Most Catholics skip Sunday Mass regularly. Most Catholics rarely if ever go to Confession. Most Catholics use contraceptives. Most Catholics do not believe in the Real Presence. Most Catholics no longer accept Church authority on any issue. Why should we be surprised, then, if on Election Day most Catholics ignore Church teachings on their moral obligation to vote in defense of human life?

CINOs and RINOs are killing this country.

Purge the Church of the CINOs by preaching the truth on the subjects that are the most divisive: Abortion, Contraception, Real Presence, Papal Authority, Marriage...this will cut the dead wood out.

6 posted on 11/06/2008 6:41:53 AM PST by frogjerk (Welcome|Goodbye to|from Free|Fairness Doctrine Republic!)
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Thus Obama drew his support from inactive Catholics. And unfortunately, most American Catholics are inactive.

As an "active" Catholic I can tell you that the "Chreasters" (attend Mass Christmas and Easter and to have a First Holy Communion party for their kid) are NOT Catholic. They put the label on when asked but they do not know/follow Catholic Doctrine.
7 posted on 11/06/2008 6:42:19 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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I bet if they count black and white Protestant voters together, they will find that a majority of self-described protestants voted for Obama. But the media won’t do that. Nope, they’re too busy trashing real Catholics who practice their religion along with “catholics” who never darken the door of a church.


9 posted on 11/06/2008 6:42:38 AM PST by LadyNavyVet (Be a monthly donor.)
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It’s not the dedicated Catholics we have to worry about, it’s the nominal ones that think all they have to do is go to confession say a couple “Hail Mary’s” and that’ll be the end of it. Consciences will be purged, and then they’ll go back and do it again.


10 posted on 11/06/2008 6:42:41 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To be sure, America's Catholic population is heavily concentrated in states that have a liberal political tilt. But is that a coincidence? Are those states hotbeds of liberalism despite the heavy Catholic presence, or because of it?

Just as the liberal branches of the Lutherans, Presbyterians, and Episcopal churches, and the United Church of Christ (Obama’s) and Unitarian Universalist churches all attract people who really have little true faith, so does the Catholic church, it seems.

12 posted on 11/06/2008 6:43:58 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Concerning Larry Sinclair: It is strange when you can be thankful for having a pervert on your side.)
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If they supported Obama they support infanticide, which was never on the table and should have been pushed DAILY until everyone knew exactly what kind of liberal Obama is!!

Those ‘pick and choose Church policy’ Catholics like Joe Biden and John Kerry, etc. should be excommunicated. Period. The Church seems to come down pretty hard on people with words—they need to back it up with ACTIONS!! if, especially politicians out there saying, “Oh, the Church really doesn’t have a stance against abortion” (Biden)—call them publicly about these things, if they repent and prove it, fine. If they don’t, then kick’em out of the Church—they don’t belong!!

(I’m not Catholic, although I support a lot of their policies about the sanctity of life)


13 posted on 11/06/2008 6:44:14 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative voting for the McCain/Palin ticket now!!)
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This is quite true.

Seduced by the Spirit of the Age (C.S. Lewis's trenchant translation of the German Zeitgeist), the liberal American bishops have for far too long ignored their duty to teach and lead.

They belatedly realized that their sinful complicity with liberal politicians will probably lead to enactment of the so-called Freedom of Choice Act and thence to the complete destruction of Catholic Charities and Catholic hospitals as well. But they woke up too late to affect the election, and FAR too late to make up for their neglect of their duties over the last 30 years or so.

It will probably take the NEXT 30 years to rebuild the bishops' authority and the moral compass of Catholicism.

14 posted on 11/06/2008 6:44:23 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse - TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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What's wrong with the Catholic Voters is that the Church is losing it - period:

The Church is losing 'influence' with many. Besides, all the issues of gay, pedophile priests, mass church/parish closings in NJ, you have this (most shocking of all)

17 posted on 11/06/2008 6:47:25 AM PST by LibFreeUSA
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Catholic Voters were swayed by the “Social Doctrine” of the Democrat Party. They think, like Pelosi, that the Abortion Issue is still “open ended.” They are wrong and should refrain from Eucharist until they’ve seen their Priest in the confessional.

“If we do not protect life, there is no reason to fight for any other cause.”

Somewhere along the line, they convinced themselves that fighting for social justice outweighed fighting for the birth of the people who would need social justice.

They are truly Catholics in Name Only because they do not hold to the teachings of the Catholic Church.

The Didache ( also referred to as The Teachings of the Twelve Apostles ) , the oldest extant manual of church order, dating from the late first or early second century states: “You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish.”

The bishops at the Second Vatican Council declared that, as Catholics, we believe what the Church authoritatively teaches on matters of faith and morals, for to hear the voice of the Church on those matters is to hear the voice of Christ himself. ( Lumen Gentium, No. 25; Mysterium Ecclesiae, No. 2 ) Catholics believe that the Holy Spirit guides the Church and protects it from error. We believe that the Roman Pontiff, Pope Benedict XVI, is the successor of Peter, the Rock on whom Jesus Christ has built his Church, and is not just another man who is entitled to his opinions on faith. We believe that we are called to trust the Spirit to guide the Church, so we do not pick and choose among her teachings.


22 posted on 11/06/2008 6:48:32 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (I carry a pistol because my rifle won't fit in my purse.)
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Most ‘professed’ catholics are liberals and if/ when they attend mass, it's weddings, funerals or Christmas
.... you can possibly include Easter for some.

Religion is no longer thought in schools.

Across the nation catholic schools are closing and churches are closed, parishes merged for a lack of priests.

JFK was the first and only catholic.

If you know or meet twenty catholics today,
ask them what the council of bishops suggested as guidance for ‘followers’.

DUH !!!!! WHO !!!!

24 posted on 11/06/2008 6:49:23 AM PST by IrishMike (Gov Sarah Palin - Gun control is hitting what you shoot at)
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It’s the teaching. Watered down messages in some Catholic Churches offer no hope, and no salvation. Just more confession and forgiveness for daily sinful behavior. It’s the message. If you are taught heaven, hell, and eternal judgment, people tend to get the message


27 posted on 11/06/2008 6:50:59 AM PST by realcleanguy
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Have we reached a point where inactive Catholics can be called secular Catholics?

Stating it that way implies a cultural identity since actually practicing Catholicism is a counter-cultural state. Our lives revolve around daily, sometimes hourly prayer and values that are antithetical to common culture.

I can’t think of any other way to put it. I do know a few in my own parish who voted for Zero, but they are devout but misguided since they voted the concern for the poor without thinking it through.

Pollsters who lump self-described Catholics who never practice their faith into one demographic are skewing the numbers.


28 posted on 11/06/2008 6:51:08 AM PST by OpusatFR (Neither Republican or Democrat. Monarchist with allegience to The Only One.)
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So for the sake of abortion we lost this election and our natipon will be socialist and there will be even more abortions. The majority of voters could care less about abortion as a federal issue and rightfully so. I would greatly support a candidate desiring smaller government, fewer taxes, less regulation, military protection, and greater individual liberty. Let the churches, nonprofits, and non-governmental entities debate thw abortion issue and sway people’s hearts and minds. It has no place in a party platform.


33 posted on 11/06/2008 6:54:13 AM PST by gotribe (obama just sucks - your wealth away)
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Life begins at conception. This is an unalterable formal teaching of the Catholic Church. If you do not accept this you are a heretic in plain english. A single abortion is homicide. The more than 48,000,000 abortions since Roe v. Wade in the United States constitute genocide by definition. The group singled out for death--unwanted, unborn children.

The believer accepts the whole deposit as proposed by the Church; the heretic accepts only such parts of it as commend themselves to his own approval.

34 posted on 11/06/2008 6:54:13 AM PST by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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The top non-negotiable issue is abortion.

A vote for Obama means you have abandoned your Catholic faith.

But that’s happened already if weekly Mass attendance has become optional.

We must pray for them.


35 posted on 11/06/2008 6:54:32 AM PST by TheGeezer
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It is time for all Christians that believe and live their faith to come together. How this can be accomplished, I don’t know but it has to happen somehow.


36 posted on 11/06/2008 6:54:34 AM PST by frogjerk (Welcome|Goodbye to|from Free|Fairness Doctrine Republic!)
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